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12 valve vs 24 valve which do u prefer

 
cumminsturbo3 cumminsturbo3
New User | Posts: 20 | Joined: 11/06
Posted: 11/08/06
09:16 PM

just wanna know ur opinion . . plus feel free to give some easy power adders for those lookin for some extra horse Wink  
1999 Ram 2500 4x4 Reg. Cab, 5.9 cummins, 5 spd, edge hot comp box, smarty tuner, fass 95 pump, 4" turbo back to 5" turn down, cold air intake, 35" tires on 18's,

HOTRODCUMMINS HOTRODCUMMINS
User | Posts: 124 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 11/21/06
08:51 PM

I'd stick with my 24v. for the ability to adjust h.p. levels on the fly!
If I were you, I'd be upgrading the turbo, exhaust, and intake manifolds before adding any more fuel, just to keep egt's safe.  
'99 2500 QC 4x4 sport, ADRENALINE, DDP 200 sticks, BD towin twins, ARP head studs, Truetrac rear diff, 5sp w/ valair 3850# dual disc

00cumminspwr 00cumminspwr
New User | Posts: 12 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 12/02/06
03:32 PM

The electronic hp adjustment is very cool, however...vp44's SUCK!!!!  Inline pumps are the way to go when you need big fuel  Cool !  Other than the fuel system on the 24v, I agree it's the way to go.  However for a dependable and long lasting rig, I'd pick the 12v.  

HOTRODCUMMINS HOTRODCUMMINS
User | Posts: 124 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 12/11/06
08:39 PM

The VP44 isn't a BAD pump, but it's not that great either. the problem with 24v fuel systems is the weak transfer pump, small fuel lines, way too many bajo fittings, and lack of a real fuel water separator. But you are correct, the inline p-71 pump is the way to go for reliability and big horse power!  
'99 2500 QC 4x4 sport, ADRENALINE, DDP 200 sticks, BD towin twins, ARP head studs, Truetrac rear diff, 5sp w/ valair 3850# dual disc

kwhite kwhite
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 12/18/06
08:09 PM

I have a question:  Does the 98 model Dodge come with the 12 valve with the mechanical pump??  I don't remember what year they went to common rail.  I guess the same time they went to 24 valve??  I have a 98 3/4 ton 4x4 quad located, just curious if I should buy it for a daily driver.

Thanks in advance for the info.  

Pipes95 Pipes95
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 12/19/06
07:05 AM

They stopped making the 12 Valve model with the mechanical pump in 1998.5

Thanks  

02CUMMINS 02CUMMINS
Enthusiast | Posts: 276 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 03/18/07
12:08 AM

i guess i like the 24V. i like the sound of it for one and it seems alot smoother than the 12V. but the 12V is the king of power when it comes to mods  
02 Dodge Cummins. w/ Banks Six Gun w/Speed Loader,K&N Intake,4" exhaust, FASS 150gph,150hsp injectors,

12v1997 12v1997
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 03/21/07
11:53 AM

12v. The VP44 is too much of a crapshoot for me. I would have skipped the 24v in favor of a 3rd Gen HPCR had I wanted a newer truck.  

2001.SCOTT 2001.SCOTT
Enthusiast | Posts: 464 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 01/02/08
05:04 PM

the problem with the 24v trucks is really not to injector pump its the stupid pump they put on the truck they want you to put a pusher pump to feed to factory piece of crap pump they put on. At least they fixed that problem on my 01 truck when it was still under warranty and put a pump in the fuel tank It may go out one day and I put an airdog pump in but I have had no problems with mine and don't see any in the future either. And what about people turing there trucks down to tow mode when towing a trailer now grated that I don't drive mine around a the highest hp setting that comp has but I surely to not turn it down to 40 hp or stock it stays at 60 but I'm sure somebody not going to agree with me. But than they did not pay for my truck either  
2001 dodge with 5in exhaust k@n intake with edge comp box,2in leveling, added holley blue lift pump kit member-"Blowing Smoke Gang" Ranchhand bumbers

2001.SCOTT 2001.SCOTT
Enthusiast | Posts: 464 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 01/02/08
05:11 PM

I do have a problem with the newer trucks not just dodge about there crappy injectors getting replaced all the time not just duramax but I guess it might be the high rail pressure of the all new great CP3 pumps out there would be my guess they do make a duel feed line kit for the CP3 pump supposed to cut rail pressure in half.  If I had a newer one it might be a good idea to put one on if you don't won't a least a $3600 garage bill. But thats just my view on the subject that if they going to make that kind of mistake they should make good on it .  
2001 dodge with 5in exhaust k@n intake with edge comp box,2in leveling, added holley blue lift pump kit member-"Blowing Smoke Gang" Ranchhand bumbers

E2theRock2 E2theRock2
Guru | Posts: 1625 | Joined: 01/08
Posted: 01/08/08
07:58 PM

Hands down i would take a 12v over a 24v any day any time any where no questions asked. my first diesel truck was a 95 12v that was a hand me down ranch truck. i hot rodded the piss out of it and it eventually caked over after i went a little too crazy with the mods including a turbo injection pump intake exhaust short throw kit for the five speed and injectors. at seventeen you don't really think about the heat issue untill you break a few parts. after that i started looking at 24v and even drove my friends 01 and was really dissapointed at how gut less it was compared to the likes of the 12v duramax or even the powerstroke. i miss my 12v. shoulda thought things through a little better.  
2011 Chevy Silverado 3500 cc/sb all stock H4 package.
2010 Camaro SS E2theRock2

beast42 beast42
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 01/11
Posted: 01/04/11
07:41 AM

i just got a 12 valve standard cummins its all stock besides the lift whats the best way to get some horse power out of it  

beast42 beast42
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 01/11
Posted: 01/04/11
07:41 AM

i just got a 12 valve standard cummins its all stock besides the lift whats the best way to get some horse power out of it  

MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2045 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 01/04/11
07:49 AM

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I do have a problem with the newer trucks not just dodge about there crappy injectors getting replaced all the time not just duramax but I guess it might be the high rail pressure of the all new great CP3 pumps out there would be my guess they do make a duel feed line kit for the CP3 pump supposed to cut rail pressure in half.  If I had a newer one it might be a good idea to put one on if you don't won't a least a $3600 garage bill. But thats just my view on the subject that if they going to make that kind of mistake they should make good on it .




The biggest problem on all the newer diesels is the lack of fuel filtering on the HPCR engines.  If you don't filter it like it's supposed to be (5 micron or better) you're going to have issues.

The easy fix is to replace the filter system with a better one.  Granted on a 40 to 50 thousand dollar truck we shouldn't have to, but this is what happens when you have an engineer with a gasoline background put stuff on a diesel rig.




Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
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444getsitdone 444getsitdone
Enthusiast | Posts: 455 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 01/04/11
08:58 AM

why didint cummins slupply the fuel filters?  
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