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6.7 Cummins vs. 6.4 Power Stroke vs. LBZ/LMM Duramax

 
cumminspowered cumminspowered
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 02/11
Posted: 02/01/11
10:31 PM

my family has had all diesels powerstroke's, duramax's, and cummins so has allot of theyre fellow rancher and all say the cummins is by far the best whether pulling or not and is more durable than the other two as well, dodge made a work truck not a fancy car......most the guys only get diesels to blow smoke and race around i say use it for what it was intended for.....bottom line the chevy's duramax is good but the front end of the truck falls apart thats why most farmers and ranchers buy ford and dodge's and the 7.3 powerstroke was like the 5.9 cummins durable but the 6.0's are crap turbo's tend to go out allot heard that from many 6.0 owners the emissions crap sucks for all three but theres only one true Diesel out there. The Cummins. Hate to say it but the Duramax and PowerStroke are both "Modified" gas engines. A true Diesel is an inline 6, always has been. Look into heavier machinery and big rigs...all inline 6's. just my 2 cents.....call it what yall want  

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 02/04/11
10:23 PM

i dont think no one can argue with that i mean dont make a truck thats suppose to pull 20000lbs and put a front independant suspension on it thats just not rite  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

444getsitdone 444getsitdone
Enthusiast | Posts: 455 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 02/04/11
11:57 PM

I'm with you on that!!! 12 valve, GREAT point Cool  
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NEVER Been "Found On Road Dead"
E99 Ford F350 CC, LB, 2wd, 332,000 miles 20 MPG, AIS Air intake, 203* tstat from Dieselsite.
09 Jetta TDI 111,000 miles 44 MPG, no mods.

To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving the peace.
-George Washington.

waterboy88 waterboy88
New User | Posts: 18 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 02/07/11
03:26 PM

i drove one, has more computer crap and less throttle response, 6.7, no thanks, ill stick with my 7.3  

Jason Sands Jason Sands
Moderator | Posts: 632 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 02/09/11
11:07 PM

OK, we're doing a test on all the current 2011 offerings....and I mean testing everyting.  Trailer towing, performance, dyno, dragstrip, off-road, serviceability....everything.

Here's a sneak peak at what we've found out so far in the Cummins vs Dmax vs Pstroke battle.

Dodge:

Pro:
Best towing
Best exhaust brake

Con:
Worst fuel economy
Slowest

Ford:

Pro:
Best Interior
Quietest

Con:
Bouncy suspension
Worst Exhaust Brake


GMC

Pros:
Most Powerful
Best fuel economy

Cons:
Cheapest-feeling interior
Short-shifting transmission  
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1989 Dodge D250 "Project Rust Bucket" 14mm Scheid VE pump, 5x25s, 47RH by J&H Performance, 62mm S300, dual wastegates, ARP studs, o-ringed head, NX two stage, 972rwhp on two guns.

1995 Dodge 4x4 "Project Triple Threat" Goerend Trans, Secret squirrel stuff by Garmon's 433/842

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 02/10/11
02:31 PM

i think that dodge has the best pro's and most certainly the ones that matter cuz thats wat these trucks are made for  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

jacob2580 jacob2580
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 02/11
Posted: 02/10/11
04:20 PM

i personally like fords 7.3 and have nothing against any chevy truck. but dodge doesn seem to win truck of the year that much whys that?  

jacob2580 jacob2580
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 02/11
Posted: 02/10/11
05:18 PM

and the ford super duty has better fuel economy than chevy and dodge  

444getsitdone 444getsitdone
Enthusiast | Posts: 455 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 02/10/11
05:39 PM

you dont buy a truck so it "feels" like you are in a crapy little car, you buy a truck so you can get the job done Cool  I vote for the "Bouncy suspension"  
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NEVER Been "Found On Road Dead"
E99 Ford F350 CC, LB, 2wd, 332,000 miles 20 MPG, AIS Air intake, 203* tstat from Dieselsite.
09 Jetta TDI 111,000 miles 44 MPG, no mods.

To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving the peace.
-George Washington.

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 02/10/11
07:08 PM

the only reason dodge doesnt win truck of the year is cuz it doesnt mean things like best riding truck or smoothest ride or most gizmo's and fancy technology junk they stick to there roots and make there one of a kind working horse not like chev who win it like every year  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

444getsitdone 444getsitdone
Enthusiast | Posts: 455 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 02/11/11
11:39 AM

you are more or less right Dodge is not a nice inside truck, if I cant get a Ford then I will get a dodge if no dodge then I will walk to where ever, NEVER going to buy a Government Motors (GM) car/truck.  
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NEVER Been "Found On Road Dead"
E99 Ford F350 CC, LB, 2wd, 332,000 miles 20 MPG, AIS Air intake, 203* tstat from Dieselsite.
09 Jetta TDI 111,000 miles 44 MPG, no mods.

To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving the peace.
-George Washington.

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 02/11/11
11:58 AM

ya and when you looking for a truck to to pull that 30ft trailer loaded to the nines you dont care what gizmos and gadgets are in your truck you only care about wats going on under the hood and thats its getting the job done my dads cousin has a 2003 1 ton dodge 6 speed manual its got a 2000lbs bale deck on it.he has a small chip in it and he pulls a 30 ft stock trailer with it and loads it full of cattle and he can fit around 15 to 20 head in there so including that bale deck that truck is pulling 20000lbs to 30000lbs when loaded and he is still passing cars on the highway and doing 120km now if that aint a truck i dont know what is and i dont think a powerstroke or chev could do that on a regular basis they run a 600 cow ranch and that truck is used to pull those kinda loads regularly.  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

15MetalMan 15MetalMan
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 06/09
Posted: 02/14/11
08:06 PM

Let me start by saying that the brand loyalty runs deep in many of the replies on here, which I guess means you haven't any issues out of the truck you currently own or that the issues you have had won't keep you from saying your truck/brand is the best. I know that all of the big three have their issues, I'm not blinded by a brand tag. I just want to know what kind of issues/reliability, towing comfort, fuel mileage, and anything else that makes that truck worth the money. I am in the Air Force and have been stationed in Japan for the last 5 years, so I follow forums like this to get real time feedback on the different trucks. I will be moving back to the states in the summer of 2012, and when I do, I will need a truck to pull my 36 foot toy hauler, so I guess you could say I am in the market for a truck. Now to the point, I am sure that most of you would agree that all of the new trucks are nice, but I have no idea who can afford a brand new $60,000 truck and still have to worry about different issues. I think its sad that we are having to spend this kind of money and still have discussions about problems that each of the trucks are having. For this amount of money, the only discussion we should be having is which seats are more comfortable or which front end looks better, but that is not the case. Please keep your info coming, just try not to be so blinded by your brand. Keep guys like me informed on how your truck is really doing, and not that its the best because its a certain brand or the worst because it is made in Mexico or the company needed bailout money. The bottom line is if you want or need a heavy duty truck with a diesel motor like I do, it is going to be either Ram, GM, or Ford, and they all have issues. Which is the longest lasting, most powerful, most comfortable, and gets the best fuel milage loaded or empty, is what I need to know. Thanks and Have a Nice Day.  

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 02/14/11
08:53 PM

well cummins will last the longest bottom line no other brand has reached a million miles or even 750 000 miles cummins has always gotten the best mileage maybe not on the brand new ones but i wouldnt go for them anyway they also got the best low end torque and got the most grunt especially with a manual transmission which is wat you should get if you got a 36 foot toy hauler duramax arent as tough as ford or dodge cuz of there front independent suspension if you live in a cold place cummins also is best for cold starts because it has a grid heater rather than glow plugs which works way for efficiently than glow plugs now the only thing is how much your looking to spend then we can narrow it down as to wats best for your budget  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

444getsitdone 444getsitdone
Enthusiast | Posts: 455 | Joined: 12/10
Posted: 02/15/11
12:18 AM

1997 is WRONG!!! there are FORD 7.3's with 750,000 or one million miles on them http://forums.dieselpowermag.com/70/8584509/power-stroke/so-how-long-do-73l-powerstroke-diesels-last/index.html 7.3's get the best MPG loaded or empty, cummins do not get the best MPG loaded or empty and Dmax's have alot of problems but people think that they get the best MPG unloaded, cummins can pull the best BUT Dodge's CANT, Ford has the best Body, Engine, (at least the 6.9/7.3/6.4/6.7 is) looks, trans, chassis, and Ford Smile  sells 250,000 trucks a year, GM Blush  100,000 trucks a year, and Dodge Shocked  75,000 trucks a year, let the number's speak for them selves  Smirk  
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NEVER Been "Found On Road Dead"
E99 Ford F350 CC, LB, 2wd, 332,000 miles 20 MPG, AIS Air intake, 203* tstat from Dieselsite.
09 Jetta TDI 111,000 miles 44 MPG, no mods.

To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving the peace.
-George Washington.

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