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DURAMAX VS FORD VS CUMMINS  
Big Swole
User | Posts: 185 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 03/29/07
09:43 PM

I've never understood why a motor like a C7 has such a wide tuning range.....why would anyone want that big of an engine with only 200pony's.......MAN!!!  Give me the 330HP version with the aftermarket tuning that bumps it to around 400HP and over 1000 in TQ............

Speaking of that .....As for Toyota getting a Cat...I don't think it'll ever be a C7...That engine weighs 1425 lbs......Not sure a Tundra or any other light duty truck needs one that heavy....  


"CUMMINS GUYS KEEP IT STRAIGHT!!! THOSE OTHER GUYS SWING BOTH WAYS!!!"

Silver 05 CTD 2500 4x4 QCSB,
584HP/1167TQ on Dunbars dyno 10/04/08, II Silver 62/12 turbo, SMARTY TNT, TS MP8,Floor It Stg. 2 CP3, F1 Flux 2's, Quad. Boost Fooler, Volant 4"Turbo back Exhaust & Air Intake, CFM+Intake Mnfld., FASS 150/95gph. Garmon's  Full Billet Tranny TC.Lockup Switch.
My best times:
12.47 @ 108mph 1/4
7.92 @ 87mph 1/8
GARMONS DIESEL PERFORMANCE 770-898-8585

 
dukeboy_318
Guru | Posts: 880 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 04/01/07
04:11 PM

Hey just to let you guys know, john deere did put a cummins in a couple of its tractors.  i was in germany, a few months ago and went to visit a farmer that i met a few years ago and one of his deeres actually had a cummins in it.  i can't seem to remember the model number, but i think it was from the mid-late 70s.  Also, Case-IH (which i'm not a fan of for the record) put cummins motors in several of the big 4x4 tractors.  Just some food for thought.  


1999 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Cummins 24 valve, 5spd with south bend 550hp+ clutch, 150 horse injectors, Fram Boost intake(for now), Edge Juice with attitude, 150 gph fass fuel pump and much more, all together 450 dyno proven HP and 1170 ft lbs.
DPMAG May Ride of the Month

and a quote from Dmax007-  this site is entirely the blind leading the blind. nobody on this site has the balls to stand up to this stupid blowin smoke gang. got news for you, i do.  

Recruiter/member of the Blowing Smoke Gang!

 
02CUMMINS
Enthusiast | Posts: 276 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/01/07
07:38 PM

yea the new cummins the 6.7L is actually a agricultural motor that has been around for a long time and is still used today. it has just been modified for road use and to meet emissions  


02 Dodge Cummins. w/ Banks Six Gun w/Speed Loader,K&N Intake,4" exhaust, FASS 150gph,150hsp injectors,

 
hustler_shan
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/02/07
10:49 AM

sry for the stir up big swole. i just get mad when people try to tell me im something im not. just please dont talk about my dad hunter. he is not in good condition. sry agine if i made you mad. i dident mean to. umm big swole im sry agine for flying off the handle. hopefully it wont happen agine.     im sure you have flew off the handle at someone when they make you mad.      im sry for what i said guys    well got to go cya l8tr  


were pissin up a rope guys!!!

 
hustler_shan
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/03/07
11:37 AM

ok in the early posts we were talking about how much hp and trq the pickups have. well here it is for the d-max and cummins. (there wasnt one on there for ford) NEW RELEASE!!: 2007 GM DURAMAX FLASHPAQ
Superchips Tuning is now available for the 2007 Duramax Pickup Trucks. Update your PN 2805, Flashpaq Tuners now at Flashpaq.com
If you thought that there was no way to beat 360 horsepower and 650 ft/lbs of torque off the factory floor, think again. Superchips has just released its latest Flashpaq update for the PN 2805, exclusively for the GM Duramax. Superchips has been the leader in Duramax tuning since the vehicle’s release in 2001, and currently provides thousands of happy Duramax owners with the power they need to work hard and play harder.

Bowtie lovers - Stay tuned!


and this one.   FIRST TO MARKET - 2003-2007 DODGE CUMMINS!!
How big is the new brute in the Dodge lineup? Big.
With 325 horses and 471 ft/lbs off the factory floor, it can haul almost anything. Add 130 more horses and 270 ft/lbs more torque with Superchips and the truck becomes a veritable monster!! Get your Flashpaq PN 3805, for use on all Dodge Diesels 2003-2007. Then go race your friends with Powerstrokes and laugh all the way to the finish line.


if you dont belive me go here    http://www.superchips.com/home.phtml  


were pissin up a rope guys!!!

 
Big Swole
User | Posts: 185 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 04/08/07
11:50 PM

I went out the other day and got to drive a New 2007 LBZ Duramax (not the New emmissions LMM) and then went up the street on drove a new 2008 F-450 with the 6.4L.......First off, I did really like the GMC...Plush interior and few more bells and whistles than my 05 Dodge CTD....Maybe cause it was brand new and not broken in yet but I wasn't that impressed with the stock power (360HP/650TQ.).....I can see how you guys really like that truck though!!  I parked my Dodge right beside it..My Dodge is a little taller and to me just looks meaner ( both have the stock tire size..I'm hoping to change that as soon as mine wear out)............On to the Ford F-450.  This truck actually had 1300 miles on it and they were selling it as used..The sales guys was playing dumb about how they got it and why it was used...Anyway,  It was solid white and had Tan leather,NAV,Sunroof, etc. It looked awesome!!!.....ALL the goodies..I know it's a dually and is longer and heavier than my Dodge, but I was still definately NOT impressed with the power...Well, lets call it Acceleration..For twin Turbos and 350/650, it just didn't roll out like I thought it would.........I know my Cummins is hopped up, but I put it back on STOCK mode and mine still felt faster than both the Duramax and Power Strokes........Anyway, thats my experience with the new ones...The Dodge dealer had a new 6.7 350/650 Dually that I was going to get to drive the next day, but something came up and I didn't make it...I gonna go back though....I really expect to be more impressed with the Cummins....

HAS ANYBODY ELSE TRIED TO DO THE BIG3-IN-1 DAY TEST DRIVES.....BACK TO BACK TO BACK, TO SEE WHICK ONE ACTUALLY FELT MORE POWERFUL????????  IF SO, LET HEAR ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE!!!!!  


"CUMMINS GUYS KEEP IT STRAIGHT!!! THOSE OTHER GUYS SWING BOTH WAYS!!!"

Silver 05 CTD 2500 4x4 QCSB,
584HP/1167TQ on Dunbars dyno 10/04/08, II Silver 62/12 turbo, SMARTY TNT, TS MP8,Floor It Stg. 2 CP3, F1 Flux 2's, Quad. Boost Fooler, Volant 4"Turbo back Exhaust & Air Intake, CFM+Intake Mnfld., FASS 150/95gph. Garmon's  Full Billet Tranny TC.Lockup Switch.
My best times:
12.47 @ 108mph 1/4
7.92 @ 87mph 1/8
GARMONS DIESEL PERFORMANCE 770-898-8585

 
hustler_shan
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/15/07
03:26 PM

i have and i knew i was going to get the ford from the start but i gave the dodge a chance. lol i still think your crazy if you thought it was doggie but... i think you are entitled to your oppinion and im not even gonna bother to try and explain to you y it is better cause i know we will end up in a fight and i dont want that to happen so i will just let it ***


lol    well cya later bud  


were pissin up a rope guys!!!

 
hunter5.9
New User | Posts: 36 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/16/07
01:02 PM

Hustler...Right off the showroom floor the dodge cummins comes with 325hp and 650tq.  


 
Big Swole
User | Posts: 185 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 04/16/07
06:21 PM

hunter5.9:
Hustler...Right off the showroom floor the dodge cummins comes with 325hp and 650tq.

The new 6.7L has TWO power ratings....

305HP/610TQ.  for the ChassisCab versions..Even the new 4500/5500 Work version will run this engine setup..

and

350HP/650TQ. in the new 2500/3500 HeavyDuty trucks/Dually's


The 325HP/610TQ  version is the 5.9L  


"CUMMINS GUYS KEEP IT STRAIGHT!!! THOSE OTHER GUYS SWING BOTH WAYS!!!"

Silver 05 CTD 2500 4x4 QCSB,
584HP/1167TQ on Dunbars dyno 10/04/08, II Silver 62/12 turbo, SMARTY TNT, TS MP8,Floor It Stg. 2 CP3, F1 Flux 2's, Quad. Boost Fooler, Volant 4"Turbo back Exhaust & Air Intake, CFM+Intake Mnfld., FASS 150/95gph. Garmon's  Full Billet Tranny TC.Lockup Switch.
My best times:
12.47 @ 108mph 1/4
7.92 @ 87mph 1/8
GARMONS DIESEL PERFORMANCE 770-898-8585

 
hustler_shan
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/17/07
10:44 AM

so the new ones have less power???? that is weird.  


were pissin up a rope guys!!!

 
Big Swole
User | Posts: 185 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 04/17/07
01:33 PM

hustler_shan:
so the new ones have less power???? that is weird.

Only the 305HP/610TQ.........This is because that this engine setup has ALREADY passed the new 2010 Emmisions standards!!!!!!!!!!


The 350/650 Version is to compete with Ford / Chevy  Unitl 2010........

If someone ever take the 6.7L and takes all the emmisions crap off and hops it up, It will be a monster....Think about how much power the 5.9 makes when its hopped up..........It's been making crazy number and ITS .7 LITERS SMALLER THAN THE DURAMAX!!!!!!!!!  Now that Cummins has 6.7 Liters........Everbody watch out!!!  


"CUMMINS GUYS KEEP IT STRAIGHT!!! THOSE OTHER GUYS SWING BOTH WAYS!!!"

Silver 05 CTD 2500 4x4 QCSB,
584HP/1167TQ on Dunbars dyno 10/04/08, II Silver 62/12 turbo, SMARTY TNT, TS MP8,Floor It Stg. 2 CP3, F1 Flux 2's, Quad. Boost Fooler, Volant 4"Turbo back Exhaust & Air Intake, CFM+Intake Mnfld., FASS 150/95gph. Garmon's  Full Billet Tranny TC.Lockup Switch.
My best times:
12.47 @ 108mph 1/4
7.92 @ 87mph 1/8
GARMONS DIESEL PERFORMANCE 770-898-8585

 
fasrptor
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 04/07
Posted: 04/18/07
11:18 AM

The duramax is the heavyweight champion of the world and thats just the way it is. With two turbos ford owners have at least one more thing to fix when it breaks down next year.  


 
hustler_shan
Enthusiast | Posts: 430 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 04/18/07
11:34 AM

hahahaha i shouldent have to fix the turbos casue they are good turbos both are. and i dont think the d-max is the champ casue how long have they been around commpared to the dodge or ford. they have only been around for what like 5 or 7 years. the powerstroke has been around since 1994.5 and the cummins has been around since like 89.  


were pissin up a rope guys!!!

 
BURNIN RUBBER
New User | Posts: 36 | Joined: 04/07
Posted: 04/18/07
06:32 PM

pdx-350 Have you had any problems with your ford,and what kind of mpg are you getting.  


 
TransAm777
New User | Posts: 42 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 06/12/07
09:51 PM

Hey guys quick question. The new 6.9l CTD, did they change the outer dimentions or just hone the block more? cause if you remember in diesel power challenge east one of the dodge competitors cracked his water jacket. if Cummins just honed the block a bit this could be trouble. think about it before you blow $30k + on a new CTD.  


 
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