This Duramax *** crap is getting on my nerves. No one on this site has any idea what the *** they are talking about. My dad has worked for ford for over 20 years and has a 2005 F-250 Super Duty Powerstroke with a BullyDog downloader. Bottom line is the Duramax 6.6L is a big piece of bowtie crap and a joke of a diesel engine. The Cummins is alright and is actually the only true diesel engine out of the three. As for the Powerstroke it is the best there is and you cannot touch its power with or without a downloader. We have never ha problems with our diesels because Ford is the best *** the rest. If you Duramax idiots had any clue what you were talking about you wouldnt be blowin'like your chev's. Ford's did have trans problems in the future as well, and im not gonna lie Allison's are very good transmissions, but i have seen Allison's blown up on the side of the road to. Ford fixed there trans problems and the new torqueshift trans is just as good as the Allsion. So all you dodge *** park it in the garage and all you chevy guys figure out that you are gay and live with that reality.  

lol dude im with you but you dint have to be that harsh lol. i think your wrong about the dodge motor though because its only a inline 6. what knida motor is only 6 cylinder. yes they do sound cool but they are *** the reason they last long is cause they dont have enogh balls to tare all *** out of the inside of them lol. the ford sounds the best stock if you ask me. the chevy are the biggest hunks of *** i have ever rode in. they will beat my 6.0L off the line but once that turbo gets spooled up it shits and gets.the dodge was actually better then then the chevy with only 6 cylinders. granted they are bigger cylinders and pistons. i would way rather be strokin then cummin or chevin. fords are the best pullers of them all to. yes the allison is an awesome transmission but it needs a better motor in the front of it besides an iszuz. the torque shift is ok but it needs to be better i dont even know what kinda transmission dodge has. does anyone else know? next the turbo lag. the only bad thing about fords is the turbo lag. chevy has absolutly no turbo lag and dodge has little to but fords turbo lag is huge not good for of the line but when that turbo is spooled up when you are pulling a trailer the ford is awesome. my ford pulls 21000lb trailers all the time up and down hills it does absolutly awesome. it is a f350 dually with 4.10 gears and a 165 hp quadzilla chip a green air filter and quadzilla gauges. it also has a monster 5 1/2 inch exhaust that makes the turbo sound awesome. very loud wissel from it.   POWERSTROKIN EVERY DAY!!!    

You guys need a couple of dunce caps, you are talkin about Chevy's problems and Dodge not havin a real motor and Ford's going to sue the R and D team for all the problems of the 6.0, Ford lost so much money with that motor it is not even funny, well kinda. You two have no room to talk about promblems.  

"What kinda motor only has 6 cylinders" WOW! That question is so stupid it's not worth answering! The D-MAX is a strong reliable motor, it's the IFS and frame that sucks and you can't blame the motor on that. The 6.0 is also a strong motor, but the fact that Ford has a pending law-suit agianst Navistar over the vast amount of warranty claims should answer the 6.0 reliablaty question. Even navistar saw the weaknesses. Why do you think they fixed all the problem areas  and renamed it the 6.4.  

For the last time if your going to argue get some facts. They made the 6.4 because of the new emmissions laws. Had nothing to due with the 6.0 reliability. The 6.4 is basically the same just bigger block and a whole bunch of emmissions crap and two sweet turbos. Once the aftermarket catches up she'll really smoke the outdated inline 6 cummapart and the L whatever the gm is on for this months production.  

You want facts! OK here are the common  weak or problem areas on the 6.0 Turbo, injectors, head bolts, headgaskets, cooling, cylinder heads, crankshaft and main bearings. So guess what Navistar changed for the 6.4. A new twin turbo system, Siemens high-pressure common rail injection with six-hole piezo injectors, 16mm head bolts, new multi-layer steel head gaskets, new 33% larger radiator and water pump that flows at 140 gpm twice that of the 6.0, cylinder heads have been reinforced,Larger crankshaft and main bearings. You say "The 6.4 is basically the same just a bigger block" In fact the only major thing carried over is the camshaft. Someone needs to get there facts straight and I don't think it's me! Here's my question Is Caveman who you are or what you are! LOL.  

hey bcram guy show me picture of one ford 6.0L that has any of that out of it casue it weent wrong. like i said my pickup has almost 132000 on it and the only thing that was wrong with it was the glow pluggs. i did ask you what kind of motor a 6 cylinder is because they are week. dont make much hp but they make good torque. you telling me to get facts before i say them is like telling bill gates he dont know how to run a computer. you and your 6.0L bashes are bull **** you dont have a clue how good the 6.0L motor is. the only reason they had to go away from it is becasue of emmisons. and why would navistar be mad at ford casue of there so called "crap" motor there the ones who made the sun of a *** you dont know why ford had to put a diffrent motor in? THEN DO SOME RESEARCH and then tell me what you found. i know why they did. and why chevy dident becasue they have more "play" in there computers so they could keep there motor just change the computers a little and pass.   wish you guys knew more about diesels before you go and bash on the ones you dont drive. i like the dodge cause they look cool. i like the chevy cause they have nice interior and a nice smooth ride. i like ford cause i like the way the motor sounds and how it pulls my heavy loads. it might be loud but if you want a quiet motor buy a honda.  

Wow this guy really knows what he is talking about you probably where reading a magazine while you where writing this. Other than what the magazines tell you no one really knows what Ford did with the new 6.4 L. The only for sure thing people can conclude is Ford put the new twin-turbo system on it and the upgraded stainless steel piezo injectors and a few other minor things. The 6.0 had a few problems but every diesel does. the 6.0 did have problems in the beginning stages and 04' and up those problems where fixed. The 7.3L was a good engine as well, but the 6.0 liter was better. The 6.6L Duramax can't even touch the 6.0 Powerstroke as far as power or realibility goes. The only sure good thing about the Chevy's is their Allsion, that is it. The only reason you would see anyone with a HD Chevy is because it has that trans in it. The Dodge has a good realible motor in it but their trans sucks ass. The Ford has the best diesel engine and a pretty *** good trans now that they fixed all the problems the old Torqueshift had. Bottom line is the 6.4L is gonna be another engine that Ford dominates the diesel truck world with, GURANTEED!  

So you think Fords law suit is becaues your glow plug went out? Maybe some other people have had problems. Tell me please how a larger crank and bearings is going to help emissions. Big companys like Ford don't launch huge law suits over a non-exitent problem, it tends to hit them hard in the pocket book when they loose. Like I stated in a past blog when it came time to replace my trusty and rusty ol 7.3 I talked to two good friends that are mechanics at two different Ford dealerships. Both mechanics gave me horror stories of busted cranks, bad bearings, pooched injectors ect. I really wanted another Ford because my last three were great trucks but they talked me out of it. I hope Ford and Navistar work this out because with the problem areas fixed, the after- market will be able to go nuts. *** with 42psi of boost stock i'd love to see what they'll come up with, it should by far be the next king.  

Wow, ford mechanics that fix broken fords. Amazing. I guess I should listen to the dodge mechanic that told me he calls them cumaparts.Great post.  

you are tellin me the cummins doesn't make alot of hp it makes just as much as your twin turbo 42psi of boost powerCHOKE. I have a good friend who has a 6 liter at 80,000mi the head gaskets and the turbo went south. Another buddy of mine has had an 03 and 05 6 liter he went and found himself a 7.3 because the other 2 never stayed out of the dealership for more than 3 weeks  

Ford has had alot of problems with the 6.0 the 6.4 may be a different story. The Duramax is a great motor that can make alot of power. The 5.9 litre 12 valve cummins makes the most power of the three and is still the best motor Dodge has put in a pickup. The fastest diesel drag trucks have 12 valves and all the top sled pullers are running 12 valves, but you can't deny the Duramax when set up right it can run with about anything.  

hey BCRAM guy when did i say they are having a law suit casue of glow plugs?? you assumed that i meant that. no i dident. you guys think your bad *** i just last night i beat a corvette with like 3 upgrades to the motor. we went out on old air port road and did 0 to 100 (casue thats all my pickup will do is 100) anyway i beat him by 3 lengths we raced for $120 he said that next to his dads diesel a (ford f250) wiht about 6000 in the motor.  it is the most power full diesel he has ever raced. he had me offthe line by about 3 lengths and i said o *** im done. but that old girl when she hit 4th gear she went from 55 to 80 in as fast a time you can say holy *** that is the gear i past him in. that is wy i love my pickup cause of that gear. dont have as much low end as your dodges and chevys do but it has way more top end. and that is the fun part. when you see him ahead of you by about 4 lengths then you hit that 4th gear and your rpms go from 3500 to 3900 but you gain about 25mph yes i know your guys diesels i dont care what it is make a *** of alot of power. i just like the 6.0L becasue i have liked fords all my life and it will keep up with alot of mustangs and corvetts. havent raced any dodge cars yet casue there anit any aroud here. but the biggest reason i like my ford is casue of that 4th gear "surge of power" you might say. when i drove the dodge there wasnt that surge like in the ford.but when i drove the chevy there was but not a much it kicked ass from 50 to 70 then after it grabbed 5th it dident do much. any of you 6.0L owners know the "surge" i am talking about. well i have to go so cya l8tr.    

[quote=hustler_shan]i did ask you what kind of motor a 6 cylinder is because they are week.[/quote]

Brilliant reasoning here. They are very "week". So "week" that Richard Madsen put one in his Ford and is making massive power. So "week" that they have remained relatively unchanged except for the fuel delivery since they were first put in the Dodges. Yes, very "week" indeed.  

dont have to tell me there week i know they are. well the 2004 cummins i drove wouldent even touch my 6.0L. i dont know about the new ones but that dodge i drove was gutless i dont know if it was a bad pickup of dodges "there is a couple of those in all of the makes" or what but it wouldent even pull a empty 40ft goose neck trailer with out slowing down on a hill. it sounds week. if someone came up to you and said whats in that thing? you say a inline 6. that sounds week. i would rather say i got a v8 wouldent you. my freind said that there isnt much for after market performance parts for those cumminaparts and he owns a 06 3500. have heard good things about it though. the only thing he dont like about it is it rides so god dang rough. only bad thing i have heard on it is that the tranny is already goin to *** with only 31000 miles on it. i wish they made a pickup with a little of a three in it. from ford i would want the motor from chevy would want the interior and tranny from dodge would want the body style. that would be a pretty cool pickuo i think.