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Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge  
PhatB
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 08/07
Posted: 09/19/07
06:29 PM

Well, I have put 75,600 miles on my '07 5.9 in just under 5 months with no issues, and I deliver to California, Oregon, and Washington State on a regular basis, I have plenty of power for the mountains running bone stock.

Anyway, the company I work for is based out of Goshen, Indiana. We deliver coast to coast. If you ever want to see the biggest gathering  of Dodges in your life, spend a day driving around Goshen. I'll say it again, I am truly a Chevy nut, but Dodge is what these guys pull with. Reliability and feul mileage are what makes them better for this market, and that is why I drive a Dodge.

Oh, btw, the great and mighty Gale Banks set the diesel powered land speed record in a Cummins powered Dodge. He drove the truck there pulling a trailer full of gear, unhooked, ran 222mph, hooked back up and drove it home, averaging 24mpg.....any more questions?  


 
DieselDood
User | Posts: 56 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 09/19/07
08:45 PM

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Ok, for all you guys out there who like to compare each engine in a "NON" real world test, here is something to think about.  All three diesel engines in the Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, now make well over 550 ft lbs of torque.  Just how much power does it take to work these trucks in real world tests?  The real question is, how durable is the truck itself?  Can each truck handle pulling a heavy load in everyday situations?  Sure, the Chevy is a good truck.  Probably the best diesel engine today.  But, the truck is junk.  It has a junky front end and small cab room.  But the engine and trans. is great!  Now, we have the Dodge.  Great, powerful diesel engine, but as with the Chevy, junky truck!  Weak trans. small cab space, junky front end, weak chassis.  But the engine is great!  Then we have the Super Duty Ford.  Once again, good engine, may not be quite as powerful as the other two, but after 550 ft lbs, who is counting?  Strong front axles, manual locking hubs, strong chassis, strong rear axles, strong transfer cases, decent transmissions, huge cab room, and the fact that you can permanently mount a 15,000 load on it and put it through real world situations for 150k miles with little problems.  I can promise you that a Chevy and Dodge will not handle that kind of load, everyday, with several different drivers, for that long.  Enough said!  JUST STROKE IT!

From the SHUG!  




Wow.  Ignorance is Bliss.

Here's the problem.  You live in one area.  There are LOTS of brand loyal people.  The other thing to think about is, up untill the last year Dodge hasn't offered a Cab and Chassis.  Companies won't buy a truck to trash a box and put a utility body on it.

15,000lbs, no problem.  There are trucks that MAKE A LIVING day in, day out hauling RV's and other types of hotshotting that are using the Dodge/Cummins trucks.  Why?  Because they are Reliable and Tough.  I haven't heard of Navistar/Dodge or the Million Mile club for Powerstrokes.  Flat out the Cummins engine is TOUGH, and the truck surrounding it is just as tough and work ready.

You keep bringing up the toughness of the axles, T-case, etc.  Well think about things before you talk.  First of all the Dodges came out with the solid front axle with Coil springs first.  Guess what Ford FINALLY did.  Yup, Coils.  

Who made the front and rear axles in the first and second gen Dodges?  Dana.  Guess what's under your Ford.  Dana.  Who makes the T-Case.....I'm not going to continue.  Use a Manual transmission and there are very few issues with those as well...and that's both sides of the fence.

Now we are to the body.  Well Gee...Dodge came up with the Kenworth front end idea.  Guess what Ford copied.  Dodge.

Man Ford has GOT to be the best....they LOST 12.7 BILLION dollars last year.  
Yup 90% of Ford trucks are still on the road....the other 10% made it home.

Use some common sense when your talking about this stuff.  
When Both companies are using the same parts.....how can either one be "junk?"

DD  


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murmanpsd7.3
Enthusiast | Posts: 411 | Joined: 08/07
Posted: 09/19/07
09:11 PM

haha it is nice to hear an educated opinion on here!  


'99 7.3 psd, afe stage 2 magnum force intake, banks six gun tuner(+62rwhp), superchips 1705 max micro tuner(+110hp), 4" mandrel bent exuast, 6" lift, ranch hand front and rear replacement bumpers, custom lights and lots of other cool gee-wiz stuff.
member- blowin smoke gang

 
bluetech151
Guru | Posts: 941 | Joined: 06/07
Posted: 09/21/07
12:31 PM

DieselDood hate to adimit it the DANA 70U sucks carrier bearings go out very easy.

And hey it doesn't matter weather you drive a Chevy,Dodge,or Ford we all have the same blood type it's called ULSD.  


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dizzmaxx
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 09/07
Posted: 09/22/07
11:52 PM

In regards to why you all see so many dodge's on the road is that the truth is there are way too many tight asses in this world who can't justify paying the exta dollar for a quality truck. Rule of thumb. The more you pay the better it is.  


 
bluetech151
Guru | Posts: 941 | Joined: 06/07
Posted: 09/23/07
08:17 AM

That would be Chevys in the gasser area and Fords in the diesel area I see alot more Ford diesels on the road than other but it might be the area I live in  


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BCRAM
Enthusiast | Posts: 536 | Joined: 11/06
Posted: 09/23/07
08:04 PM

In regards to why you all see so many Dodge's on the road is that the truth is there are way too many tight asses in this world who can't justify paying the extra dollar for a quality truck. Rule of thumb. The more you pay the better it is.  

Wow! I bet the 6.0 Ford boys wish you had told them that before they went and spent that extra dollar for that "quality truck". As far as seeing so many Dodges around I guess it wouldn't have anything to do with the quality and durability of the Cummins motor, now would it?  


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dizzmaxx
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 09/07
Posted: 09/23/07
09:27 PM

I would look at things from your point of view but i cant get my head that far up my ass. All that a dang dodge is a oversized shipping crate for a cummings ya i put a g in there cuz it aint worth taking the time to figure out how to spell it right!!!  


 
PhatB
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 08/07
Posted: 09/24/07
06:16 AM

I came to this board to learn more about my diesel truck, not to get caught up in grade school arguments, which I unfortuneately did.

Listen guys, the whole Ford/Chevy/Dodge pissing match is just like the holy war in Iraq, it is never going to end, and there will never be a winner.

I say buy and drive what you want to. You are the one forking out the cash, choose what makes you happy and to *** with what anyone else thinks.  


 
haulin
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 09/07
Posted: 09/24/07
11:01 AM

I too came to this site to see if I could get some information on the differences in haulin 5th wheels with the different big three. I knew there would be brand favorites, but didn't realize the mentality of some people was still in 3rd grade. As it seems all the the big three have made changes to there truck in the last 5 years, some good and some bad.  I was just wondering if there was a significant difference.  Thank you to the people who gave an opinion on what they saw and the guys who haul 5th wheels and the mechanics. I'm glad there are a few adults in the world. YOUR information was helpful.  


 
DieselDood
User | Posts: 56 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 09/24/07
03:05 PM

bluetech151:
DieselDood hate to adimit it the DANA 70U sucks carrier bearings go out very easy.

And hey it doesn't matter weather you drive a Chevy,Dodge,or Ford we all have the same blood type it's called ULSD.


Ahh but you see it's not all bad either.  Our Triple D Drag truck runs a D70 rear differential.  Launching at 20 psi repeatidly is pretty tough on ANY driveline part.  We know it's a "weak link" but it continues to hold and give us no issues.

As I recall Ford still used the D60 Rear axle in it's trucks through the mid 90's.  


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bluetech151
Guru | Posts: 941 | Joined: 06/07
Posted: 09/24/07
07:54 PM

I know the D70 is a good rear end but its like the ford 6.0 it has it's problems well maybe not that much I have only seen three go out that I know of but there are still plenty on the road. It seem you now alot about diesels from all those well thought out post DieselDood

Thanks! for all the good info  


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DieselDood
User | Posts: 56 | Joined: 07/06
Posted: 09/25/07
03:06 AM

Being in the Diesel Performance buisiness, I try to keep up the best I can.  Most of our customers are running the Dodge trucks.  We get a few of the other 2, but usually when they find out how it's exponentially more expensive to REALLY modify their trucks it ends there.  


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tom_6.2chevy
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 09/07
Posted: 09/27/07
04:10 PM

yeah say that when my 6.2 1990 bone stock chevy sitting on 265/75's and 275,000 miles is pulling out a super duty sitting on 35's nuff said
chevy.....like a rock  


 
Kazairl
User | Posts: 83 | Joined: 08/07
Posted: 09/28/07
01:27 PM

yep. And just think how bad you'll feel when a Ford/Dodge/chevy/import/Gasser/diesel whatever pulls you out when you get stuck. Pulling something else out makes you feel good for a little while and you get the chance to rub it into the other guy. But face it, you will get stuck/breakdown eventually somewhere and someone else will pull you. Everybody will its only a matter of time.
 And so what if it does have 35's? Like that makes a difference? Sorry MY IQ is pretty low. You'll have to explain that to me Because I don't get it.  


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