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PowerStroke or PowerChoke?
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Posted: 09/27/07 05:45 AM
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Ok Yall, Not trying to start a fight. As many of you know, my personal vehicle is a Dodge, but everyday at work I ride in a ford. And we broke both of them yesterday...again.
Probably put 15k miles on it myself and never traveled more than one county away. Its an 05' E450 6.0 Ambulance. We have two of them. My truck has eaten a turbo, two oil pumps, and 3 air conditioners. That's the good news. My trucks twin, has eaten 2 turbos, 2 sets of injectors, two oil pumps, 1 air conditioner, and I'm wanting to say a fuel pump...but that i'm not sure about. it never stays on the road for more than 4 days. Yesterday my coworkers fired it up, it blew black smoke at idle (thick) and didn't have enough power to get out of its own footprint.
Now I'll grant that any truck made into an ambulance, has the hardest workload of any vehicle. They get the crap kicked out of them 24/7/365. But our old 7.3's didn't break 1/4 as much as the newer ones do. And it seems this breaking thing is a new thing since they've both hit 55k. Anyone else's Fords eating oil pumps and etc on a regular basis. Or do we just beat the holy heck out of ours?
2006 Dodge Cummins 2500Q 4x4 SLT. AEM Workhorse Induction. DiabloSport Predator r16 stacked with DiabloSport PowerPuck, BD Deep Transmission Pan, All Royal Purple Fluids, Line-X(Over The Rail), Access Tonneau, 5% Window Tint. Recon Bed Lights, LED Bar and Tail Lights. 17 x 9 Pro Comp 6001series with Pro Comp Extreme A/T Tires (305/60R/17). Silverline 4in Dual Exhaust
IAFF- Local 805
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Posted: 09/27/07 06:05 AM
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YES! Our 05 F450 ambulance has ate 2 turbos, 1 EGR valve and will fall flat on its face while the 2000 7.3 will pass it up and go to the call. The only thing that the 7.3 has had done is the water pump. We will never spec another Ford again. People will die waiting for this POS to get there.
06 Chevy 2500HD LBZ CC/SB: Triple Dog/Crazy Larry, AFE ST2, MBRP 4" SS, 265 TOYO's
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Posted: 09/27/07 02:56 PM
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I hope for Ford's sake the new 6.4L treats their customers better.
2003 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie 4x4. H.O. Cummins, 6spd manual trans, 4.10 gearing. Intake, Exhaust, Hot Juice, HTT HTB2 62/12/65, Jake Brake, 305-65R17 (33 x 12.50) Pro-Comp Extreme All Terrains, SBC Con O FE, Fuel Tank Vent Mod, Various other gizmos.
I-6 Cummins guys are keepin' it straight. Those other boys swing both ways.
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stroken
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| Joined: 09/07
Posted: 09/27/07 07:28 PM
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you know that all the emergancy trucks are ford powerstrokes and they will never change. you know that the worlds biggest oil rig all have fords up on the top of alaska in -40 below weather and they all trust the POWERSTROKE not because there cheap cause there a work horse.
RIDE IT, ROPE IT, POWERSTROKE IT *BBF*
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Posted: 09/28/07 11:08 AM
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Well since Ford is no longer building the E-Series cutaway in a diesel, I highly doubt our emergency vehicles will be fords anymore. Our boss seems he ll bent on the van cutaway type chassis. Hoping to get him to go with freightliner or international chassis, I know they make a smaller type chassis that shouldn't be to much bigger than what we have now. I've been a paramedic for 2 years, and in ems/fire for over 6 years. We've always had FORDS, always. but these ones lately have been a real let down. I'm not die hard anti ford person that most dodge guys are. Traditionally they are both good trucks, but I will certainly never spend my money on a 6.0, and i'm pretty confident the 6.4 won't do much better.
2006 Dodge Cummins 2500Q 4x4 SLT. AEM Workhorse Induction. DiabloSport Predator r16 stacked with DiabloSport PowerPuck, BD Deep Transmission Pan, All Royal Purple Fluids, Line-X(Over The Rail), Access Tonneau, 5% Window Tint. Recon Bed Lights, LED Bar and Tail Lights. 17 x 9 Pro Comp 6001series with Pro Comp Extreme A/T Tires (305/60R/17). Silverline 4in Dual Exhaust
IAFF- Local 805
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Posted: 09/28/07 02:32 PM
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our base just got a new(2007) setup like that, all of our other ones are the 7.3's and we rarely if ever have any issues with them, they pull great and have been very reliable, i'll have to make shure to keep an eye on this new rig... i havn't been an emt for very long but it seems like that 6.0 that is in most fleet vehicles is pretty unreliable... haha that would be a trip to see if i could get my boss get a cummins swap and soup up the old rig a little.. haha that would be kinda funny havin a rig like that, that would shred some tires...
'99 7.3 psd, afe stage 2 magnum force intake, banks six gun tuner(+62rwhp), superchips 1705 max micro tuner(+110hp), 4" mandrel bent exuast, 6" lift, ranch hand front and rear replacement bumpers, custom lights and lots of other cool gee-wiz stuff. member- blowin smoke gang
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Posted: 11/19/07 09:19 PM
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Got ours back FINALLY. 2700 bucks worth of labor and 6 weeks for parts. 1 rad, 2 ball joints, an oil cooler, lines, and another pump. We're back in business. LOL. Runs like a scalded dog now. I've noticed it not nearly as fast as it used to be...acceleration wise. It takes awhile to hit 100 now. Why do vehicles lose speed? Wear on the tranny? losing compression? this is an in general question. Think I'd get in trouble for buying a programmer for it?? LOL That would be hilarious.
2006 Dodge Cummins 2500Q 4x4 SLT. AEM Workhorse Induction. DiabloSport Predator r16 stacked with DiabloSport PowerPuck, BD Deep Transmission Pan, All Royal Purple Fluids, Line-X(Over The Rail), Access Tonneau, 5% Window Tint. Recon Bed Lights, LED Bar and Tail Lights. 17 x 9 Pro Comp 6001series with Pro Comp Extreme A/T Tires (305/60R/17). Silverline 4in Dual Exhaust
IAFF- Local 805
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fire_capn
New User
| Posts: 16
| Joined: 11/07
Posted: 11/19/07 11:17 PM
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All I can say is stir clear of the "NEW" GM Sqauds...the EMS station next to our fire house just got one and the Duramax is not fairng to well with the Public Safety scene...it's a half way decent looking bus but...it is rapidly turnung my opinon of the Duramax towards the crapper. (sorry you bowtie guys) there are 6 of these in the county and they spend more time in the shop than on the street. The other 20 trucks are 7.3's and they are still going strong...but they tried to side step the 6.0's with the Duramax...May have been a bad choice!
99 F-250,XLT,PSD,Automatic,4x4,Bully Dog Flip Chip
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02CUMMINS
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| Joined: 03/07
Posted: 11/25/07 03:42 PM
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i have been seeing more and more of those freightliner ambulances. they seem decent. i think they are spec'd with either a cummins 8.3 or a mercedes-benz
02 Dodge Cummins. w/ Banks Six Gun w/Speed Loader,K&N Intake,4" exhaust, FASS 150gph,150hsp injectors,
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Posted: 12/08/07 10:45 AM
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Your slower acceleration MAY be the torque converter getting loose and starting to slip. Just a thought. Then again, maybe the repair shop took the liberty of de-tuning your powerstroke so it would last a bit longer this time around.
2003 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie 4x4. H.O. Cummins, 6spd manual trans, 4.10 gearing. Intake, Exhaust, Hot Juice, HTT HTB2 62/12/65, Jake Brake, 305-65R17 (33 x 12.50) Pro-Comp Extreme All Terrains, SBC Con O FE, Fuel Tank Vent Mod, Various other gizmos.
I-6 Cummins guys are keepin' it straight. Those other boys swing both ways.
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Posted: 12/08/07 12:27 PM
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i got 40,000 on my o6 i tow almost everyday wieghing around 38,000 lbs i have three edge chips intake and exhaust 8 inchs of lift with 35s all the way around i havent had one single problem with the motor or tranny im suprised my self it never says no the only thing i broke was the procomp lift
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Posted: 12/08/07 12:36 PM
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lately ive been working in the hills and they have two 05 f350 ambulances they haul ass weather they have lights on or not so u got ask ur self they basicly race the trucks everday back and forth i would call them race ambulance how long do u expect them to last going a 100 mph not to mention there probly heavy as hell but i think all n all ford and international should have built a twin turbo 7.3 and stuck with that motor
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