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Power Parts for the IDI diesels?
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Posted: 04/24/08 01:33 PM
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I heard that ford made 2 turbos for the 1994 idi motors, is there a big difference and why wont a di turbo work on a idi motor if it the same part number via ford dealer.
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DarrinT89
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Posted: 07/26/08 08:32 AM
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Big_Blue.Diesel9: I heard that ford made 2 turbos for the 1994 idi motors, is there a big difference and why wont a di turbo work on a idi motor if it the same part number via ford dealer.
That is the first that I have heard about that, They may be comparing the IDI turbo to the PSD turbo, Late 94 was the first year for the PSD's but you could only get them with a 5 speed. Then 95 was the first full year production for the PSD, and you could get the auto or 5 speed. Just my .02,..
Before I droped in the Cummins I was running the 7.3 with the old Big Box Banks style turbo setup. 4" exhaust, Home Brew Propane system, some minor pump adjustments, and "G" code injectors. With a c6 trans, Gearvenders OD, 4:10 gears and 35" tires I ran it on the Dyno. I wanted to see what difference the LPG made other than the obvous seat of the pants difference.
Here are the results: First pull, no LPG HP 183.15 Torque 325.45
2nd and 3rd pull with LPG
HP 205.35 Torque 362.64 HP 205.51 Torque 361.55
So 22.96 increase in HP and 37.19 increase in Torque.
They say that is about 289 HP at the crank, and 417 TQ
The IDI can only handle 15 PSI of boost at max, I could max out my boost guage and guess it would hit 17 if I wanted to. I eventually blew a head gasket, but this was driving the truck for 4 years on an unknown mileage motor.
You also can get a high performance pump and it does make quite a differenc. It is called the "Moose Pump"
Here is some info on that: http://oilburners.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18713
If you need a turbo you can pick a used setup on ebay once in a while for 1,000 or under, just make sure you are getting a comletet kit.
Have a great day,..!
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BCRAM
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Posted: 07/26/08 06:39 PM
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My '94 idi put 220 hp and 460 something of torque( I don't have the dyno report anymore...it went with the truck when I sold it)at 14 psi of boost on the dyno. I later bumped the boost to 18 psi and ran it like that for 9 years (250,000 kilometers) without a problem. When my brother-inlaw saw how good the truck went he did the same mods and ran 18psi as well. He ran that truck problem free for years and later sold it to a friend who still has it to this day...problem free. I know that everytime I told a Ford tech that I was running 18 pounds, they would about poop themselves and tell me that I can't do that...Well I can and did... maybe we were just lucky, I don't know.
2002 Dodge Ram 6 SPD Fass pump, afe cold air, mbrp 4" ss exhaust, 275hp RV injectors, edge ez, isspro gauges, South Bend clutch, track bar updated to 03-07 style, dss steering stabilizer system, 285 Cooper Discover
"If it doesn't have tit's a trigger or a throttle I'm pretty much not interested!"
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jdaywf
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Posted: 07/30/08 02:14 PM
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My friend has a 1990 f-250 and we need to get it away from stock with more fuel, air intakes, and turbos, does anyone have any clue on how to do this?
99' 2500 Reg. cab, 5 speed, Edge comp box, hypertec, silverline 4" turbo back, K&N air intake
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BCRAM
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Posted: 07/31/08 02:26 PM
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GO to ATS, Banks or Hypermax turbos.
2002 Dodge Ram 6 SPD Fass pump, afe cold air, mbrp 4" ss exhaust, 275hp RV injectors, edge ez, isspro gauges, South Bend clutch, track bar updated to 03-07 style, dss steering stabilizer system, 285 Cooper Discover
"If it doesn't have tit's a trigger or a throttle I'm pretty much not interested!"
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jdaywf
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Posted: 08/03/08 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the reply, Do you know how to beef up the fuel any, or is it set. I've got a 99' dodge 2500, with an edge comp, hypertec programmer, silver line 4" from the turbo back, theirs lots of extras on the market for the 24 valve but not many for the IDI ford. we've got 4" stacks for the IDI to open the exhuast up and thinking about fabing up an air intake for it till he can get (afford) a turbo for it, any ideas on gettin more fuel or how to build an air intake for the IDI?
99' 2500 Reg. cab, 5 speed, Edge comp box, hypertec, silverline 4" turbo back, K&N air intake
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Posted: 09/22/08 10:26 AM
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alright well i just got a 1986 ford f250 6.9 diesel...and i was looking at the banks sidewinder kit and wanted to know if any of you have it and how good it is. Or what i should do about performance?
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BCRAM
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Posted: 09/24/08 05:32 PM
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I had the ATS kit...my bud had the Banks. I kicked his butt bad enough that he sold it and bought the ATS.
2002 Dodge Ram 6 SPD Fass pump, afe cold air, mbrp 4" ss exhaust, 275hp RV injectors, edge ez, isspro gauges, South Bend clutch, track bar updated to 03-07 style, dss steering stabilizer system, 285 Cooper Discover
"If it doesn't have tit's a trigger or a throttle I'm pretty much not interested!"
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Posted: 11/04/08 11:56 PM
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I have a complete Banks setup for your truck, for sale. I'd take just $650 for the complete setup.
Sonny Fast cars, diesels, food, women, banjo pickin'.... ALL good!
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jdaywf
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Posted: 11/30/08 11:07 AM
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You have the banks kit for 650, is that the turbo and every thing?!!, Were looking for a used kit but can't find one.
99' 2500 Reg. cab, 5 speed, Edge comp box, hypertec, silverline 4" turbo back, K&N air intake
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Superford
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Posted: 01/12/09 10:07 PM
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Hey check out DPS-Performance.com. I bought some of their injectors and I like them quite a bit. They also have other power parts like beefed up injection pumps and head studs. Also checkout oilburners.net and talk to Mel aka Agnem. He builds what he calls Moosepumps. They are injection pumps that have received rave reviews.
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Superford
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Posted: 01/12/09 10:13 PM
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Oh. And something else. Talk to the guys at Hypermax. They know quite a bit about idis.
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Posted: 06/01/09 03:39 PM
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hey few questines for you guys i found a guy near me who wants 300 for a complete turbo set up of his 93 that lost oil pressure how can i check the turbo make sure its ok? also i have a 91 with a c6 dana 60 front end and 4,10 gears with a 305 tire what is the cheapest way to get my rpms down im just learning about these overdrive kits im turning 2800----3200 55 to 65 mph not under a load i think its way to much im considering putting in a 5 speed setup but i think it will be more work then i want any help wood be great thanks,
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sootman73
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Posted: 09/08/09 09:13 AM
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you can get injectors and hi po inj pumps from agnem on oilburners.net. these are quality units that had real attention put to them during research and design. unlike dps parts the moose parts are worth the money. DPS injectors flow more fuel but they do it in a horrible stream pattern instead of a good vapor cloud. DPS will get you more smoke and fuel but the power is not going to be there. the "moose misters" are brand new and start around $800 for the eight but there is nothing that even comes close.
as for the turbo questions wiggle the shaft of the compressor wheel. there should be some slight movement but none of the fins should be able to touch the housing. if they do you can rebuild it(not easy) or buy anew turbo. for three hundred i'd buy it just to get all the other parts that are usually harder to find. add an overdrive/underdrive behind the trans and that will really help you out with rpms.
94' F250 7.3L turbo diesel extended cab 4wd IP maxxed out, Autometer Phanton II pyro and boost on a-pillar, straight piped, E40D auto and 3:55 gearing. SOON: stage 1 injectors, high performance transmission, and 5in flapper stacks! SOMEDAY: 4in lift with 37's and maybe twins once hauled two gravity wagons with beans. Rig weighed in at 30,280#! and the only thing slowin me down was the bad wagon wheels!(and snow) it chugged with pride right up the snow covered ramp where a suburban with one wagon needed a tr
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mj05
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Posted: 11/17/09 05:37 PM
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I like the 85-86 model year F-series. Is the 6.9 better, worse, or not much different than the 7.3? I want that balance between power/reliability/and economy. Not sure whether to consider ATS, hypermax, or banks..... the Banks kit seems pretty complete. What do you guys think?
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