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2001 DODGE B2500 W/ CUMMINS 5.9L - FUEL SYSTEM PROBLEMS

  
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2001 DODGE B2500 W/ CUMMINS 5.9L - FUEL SYSTEM PROBLEMS

 
ROYTHAXTON ROYTHAXTON
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/29/08
01:08 PM

Hello everyone, I am new to DieselPower and I have a Problem with my Dodge. About a month ago, when it was really cold (25F) I was headed to town and the truck had a dead pedal feeling when going up any type of incline. I could let off the pedal and stomp it again and it might pick up or not. once it got warmed up I did not have more problem with dead pedal feel but it started running ruff when it is first started(like it is not getting enough fuel) I changed the fuel filter out. it seemed to help the problem for about a week then it started doing it again. I then changed out the electric lift pump on the side of the motor(this was a real pain in the butt) this seemed to help it a little. I pulled the old fuel pump apart to find that the flights had worn and pieces of metal had been worn away from impellar. I then changed the fuel filter again and found metal shavings in the bottom of the filter holder. I was able to get the metal out with a magnet. The engine still seems to be starving for fuel especially in the lower gears(6 speed). I am not sure what to do next? can anybody relate to this issue and have any advice on what I should try next. This is the first mechanical troubles I have had with this engine.                                            Thanks for your help! <img src='/_siteconfigs/_global/images/community/bbcode/laugh.gif'>  

Christine5 Christine5
Enthusiast | Posts: 310 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 03/29/08
03:15 PM

You still need to check your pressure with a gauge.Do you here the lift pump running strong when you bump the starter and not letting the eng run with key left on(should run fo 1 minute).Bad news if you had low pressure to long your vp-44 pump will be bad and thats exspensive.Rule out pressure and air geting into fuel fist.  
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dukeboy_318 dukeboy_318
Guru | Posts: 897 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 03/29/08
04:08 PM

sounds like a liftpump/injection pump problem conduct the test like christine5 said or take it to a near by shop and have the pressure tested if you dont wanna buy a gauge to see, anything 5 and below is killer to the injection pump, lift pumps run from 150-500 bucks but an injection pump will take upwards of a 1200 bucks out of your wallet.  With the metal in the pump and filter, id say its a lift pump, wouldnt hurt to replace it anyway, if the problem still exsists, most likely its the injection pump Frown  
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ROYTHAXTON ROYTHAXTON
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/31/08
06:31 PM

THANKS FOR THE HELP....  I WILL SEE IF I CAN GET IT CHECKED OUT.... I HOPE IT IS JUST SOMETHING SIMPLE.  

mike5742 mike5742
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 12/28/09
09:23 PM

Hello .  I know this is an old post but was wondering if you found a solution to your problem.  I seem to be having a dead petal issue with my Ram 2500 cummins 24v.  Any advise would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.  

MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2044 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 12/29/09
04:04 AM

Start at the top of this thread and read it.  It will either be a lift pump/injection pump issue, or perhaps a bad throttle position sensor.



Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
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mike5742 mike5742
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 12/29/09
03:33 PM

Thanks Kris.  I noticed today when the truck was running for over a half hour and well warmed the problem did not occur.  

MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2044 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 12/30/09
12:37 AM

I would look really hard at your TPS as being the issue since the only thing that's changed is the truck being up to operating temps.  You don't say what year, but if it's older than an '05 then this sounds reasonable.

If it were the LP or IP it would do it no matter what.


Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
Titan Fuel Tank
Aero Muffler 4040XL
Nathan AirChime K3LA

cumminsman315 cumminsman315
New User | Posts: 5 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 12/30/09
06:36 AM

having expeience with this wery problem, i would make sure the lift pump is better than stock. the stock lift pumps are trash right out of the box. when testing fuel pressures i found that the $225 stock lift pump will get down to low sigle digits under full throttle (keep in mind my 01 only has intake and exhaust-no chip or injectors). thats asking for injection pump problems right there. the fass dodge direct replacment pump installs on the side of the block in the stock lift pump location and holds 25 lbs under full throttle and can be bought for $250 from geno's garage. why risk injection pump when its only $25 dollars more for a lift pump that actually supplies the right dose of fuel? on the injection pump side of things-this very well could be the issue too. i wouln't rule that out. if your close to 100,000 miles chances are it's the injection pump. which if it is the injection pump chances are the lift pump caused it. when the supply fuel pressure drops to the single digits it causes premature wear. i've seen this very problem and the noticable signs can anywhere from hard starting, dead pedal, pop and crackle in the exhaust, or even not running at all. the easiest and cheapest thing is to install a good lift pump and new fuel filter. then check the fuel pressure at the injection pump. then if you have good fuel pressure at the pump 9 times out of 10 you need an injection pump. also don't rule out the fact that you could have gotten a tank of bad fuel, also depending on the temp and where you are it might non be a bad idea to put some additive like stanadyne or howes in your tank.

IT CAN STILL BE THE INJECTION PUMP OR LIFT PUMP REGARDLESS HOW TEMP EFFECTS PERFORMANCE!
once the truck has run for a half hour or so and the engine has warmed up, so has all of the fuel system. diesel fuel gets thinner the warmer it gets-making it easier to pump when the pump is relatively weak. so don't rule out the fuel system untill it has been pressure tested!!!  
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quincy6842 quincy6842
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 11/11
Posted: 11/20/11
08:49 PM

i have a 04 5.9 H.O cummins and i was driving down the road and it just quit. After about a hour of jacking with it, it finally started drove about 100 miles and it just quit agian only this time it wont start agian. I am not sure what exactly my problem is. I think it is the lifter pump not transfering any fuel, but i dont know if the pump is out or if i might have a short somewhere since the first time it died it started back and did run about a 100 miles. Any ideas????  

02cummins24valve 02cummins24valve
New User | Posts: 19 | Joined: 05/11
Posted: 11/22/11
05:19 AM

I had the same problem, i finally figured it out a couple weeks ago. Mine was my injection pump was going out. At first when it started going bad there was no code. But about 3 weeks ago i checked for codes again and it had the p0216 code. I replaced my injection pump last week and my truck was running good. My trucks symptoms when it started was dead pedal and it was running really bad in the morning until it got warmed up, and while it was idleing in the morning it puffed out a little bit of white smoke. Hope this helps you.
-Nate  
2002 24 valve dodge cummins, ext cab, long bed, Banks 4 inch exhaust, quadzilla adrenaline, afe stage 2 intake, ats intakemanifold,bluechip special x injection pump,bd max folw 150gph lift pump,helper springs in
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01cumminstdh 01cumminstdh
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 03/12
Posted: 03/05/12
08:39 PM

I have a question. My 01 cummins seems to almost girgle or idle funny when it just idles and when i put it in drive or reverse it stops and runs strong and i didnt know if i should worry about that.