im one of those die hard ford guys that cant be moved or swayed lol
until i bought a 97 psd with a couple upgrades...i got it and was very happy with it until...the cummins came knockin...my buddy got a 99 3500 with a 24v ..same upgrades as me also with a standard trans...damn thing blew me away...unreal power compared to my powerstroke...i still love my truck but i now want it to have a cummins badge on it instead of the powerstroke...i know about the fordcummins.com site but i need to find a cheap 24v and maybe shop around for stuff...im gonna end up looking for about 600hp in the cummins...help?...also i want a stock 24v ...i want to do the upgrades  

THERE IS DESTROKED.COM, BUT THATS GOING TO COST YOU A LEFT ARM!! IF YOU WANT A CUMMINS, BUY A DODGE???  

yeah, its hard to swap te computer controlled 24 valve into anything else, your best bet it to swap a 12 valve, but they are getting harder to find at a decent price.  

i started working on a 79 bronco when i was still leatrning to walk ...theres no way im changing to dodge now...engine yes truck no...if i ran a 12v could i run600 hp?  

easily, those 12v cummins are much easier to get hp out of than the 24v. just look at richard "mad dog" madsens f350 cummins  

hey black 97 if you want to run the 24v electronics painless wiring makes a harness that you can plug all your ford stuff to the cummins. but i would put a 12 v in it you cuold make some crazy power out of it!! and  lot cheaper. thats the route im lookin to go with my 97  

bigblack97:
i started working on a 79 bronco when i was still leatrning to walk ...theres no way im changing to dodge now...engine yes truck no...if i ran a 12v could i run600 hp?

Oh yea. Just find a 12 valver from a 19994-1998 Dodge. Those engines had the famous P-7100 injection pump, otherwise known as the P-Pump. That little gem is the one sought after by all the sled-pullers and other big horsepower guys as it can be easily modified to flow more fuel than any other injection pump ever strapped to a 5.9L Cummins and doesn't require a computer of any kind to operate. Completely mechanically operated.

The earlier 5.9L, 12-valve engines, like in Project Rust Bucket, used a smaller, less voluminous pump, called the VE pump. From 1998.5 on to 2002, Dodge used the 24-valve engines with the computer controlled VP-44 injection pump. 2003 started the High Pressure Common Rail (HPCR) style injection and Cummins used the electronically controled CP3 pump that generates fuel pressures of 23,000 psi and above. When the 6.7L Cummins was introduced, the CP3 was tuned to produce nearly 30,000 PSI(!), but it still can't flow the raw volume of the good ol' P-7100.  

I wanted to go for 24v cause there newer and easy to get parts for but if 12v is better ill do that...I'm just sick of the psd lol...94-98 is the p-pump?  

wow ... that mad dog guys truck is sick...i dont want powetr like what he has but its gonna be pretty much a daily driver that will definately go to the track...i was thinking 500 with the psd but when i get a 12v...600? 700? ive seen a nadp 800 hp daily driver so i dunno...i dont wanna crack the engine open and start throwing in a crank and rods and pistons and what not... and im only going for a single turbo...twins is too much...what would be a good number to shoot for with those intensions?  

Yeah its the '94-'98 trucks with the P7100 pump, not to be confused with the 1998.5 trucks with the 24 valve. I know you can put a fuel plate on these pumps, and get mad power. I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I looked up the dyno results, and with a stock 5-speed truck the plate gave it 45 more hp just with the plate alone. (215hp to 260hp). It is fairly cheap, the #11 being the highest rated road legal plate, ranging from $150-$200. If you are going to push more than 600 horses, I think you will need some internal engine mods, not to mention the transmission. While I'm thinking about it, does anybody know exactly how to adjust the P-pump for more fuel? Is it set up like the VE pump, with an Allen key? How do you know when you are pushing to much fuel?  

with bolt ons, idk they did a test on the duramax in one of the issues a couple of months ago. the most they got the dmax to crank out was 600rwhp. so it was probably around 750 crank hp. thats just with bolt ons, nothing else. with a single turbo the most youre looking at is 600 hp, but ive never owned a cummins so i dont know what the most bolt on hp you can get with one turbo is.  

you have to be careful when you play with the pumps because if you turn it to high the engine will run away and rev to like 5500 rpms and blow so you should take off the intake to the turbo and have something solid to hold infront of the turbo to choke off the air supply incase it does run away on you so it doesnt sieze on you  

So I got a wicked offer for a 98 3500 with 210000 kilometers so my psd might be a cummins faster than I thought lol...ill keep ya posted  

is it 12 or 24 valve?  i would personally go with a 12 valve.  there ALL mechanical, no stupid computers in there.