Yeah that's true.  Oh well!  

Im not so much trying to play into the rivalry, which of course there is.  I do know that our older powerstrokes (early 2000's) are great diesels.  They are usually in the shop for PM only, you cant break em.  I just wonder what the heck happened?  

For what it's worth, my armchair assessment of why the 6.0 Powerstroke was such a disaster is that they were trying to make the engine do things it wasn't designed for. First and foremost, trying to make the HEUI injectors do multiple pre-injection pulses, attempting to emulate the competitors full-electronic injectors. You could probably make the case that the injector issues kind of had a domino effect that caused other problems with the rest of the engine. Just my $0.02 worth.  

Not like the Duramax is that much better. We have had several LLY and LMM trucks come in with injector problems. I think it really comes down to the year on PSD; if you get an 04 or early 05 you are gonna have problems but mid 05 they started to get it right and 06 and 07 they were just as strong as ever. We have a 06 PSD ranch truck that we have had for a month and we have literally beat the crap out of that truck every single day and it wont break and it never gives up. We have overloaded it jumped it hot rodded it and still that truck wont leak and wont break. Everyone has their own opinion on it but you have to look at it this way: Dodge and GM had proven designs under hood when the 6.0L debuted thats why they looked so much better. It was a brand new engine so yea its gonna have problems and its gonna break because thats the road to sucess. Look at the early Duramax's and Cummins they all had problems for the first year of so and then they were crystal clear except for the uncommon problem here of there. Look at the 6.4 yea at first that BRAND NEW engine had problems because it was being tested in the real world by everyday Americans and yea it had lots of failures and problems but now Ford has it figured out and they are a damn good motor. My brother has a 6.4 and its a damn good truck and has never given him any problems. Gnaw on that and think about that before you post something about the 6.0 or 6.4 next time. If you dont fail, you will never succeed.  

Its interesting, as Im reading this our newest PSD just went down with shards of the engine in its oil pan and filter.  It needs a new engine and it barely has 3000 miles on it.  Emergency services is about as demanding as it gets, if it cant stand up here well. . .  

Emergency services isn't just demanding on toughness it's VERY demanding on "reliability". Lives depend on them every day. The last thing you want, is to have to tell someone their child didn't make it because the motor in the ambulance blew-up on the way to the hospital.  

yeah should have kept the 7.3's for all the meat wagons lol  

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Its interesting, as Im reading this our newest PSD just went down with shards of the engine in its oil pan and filter.  It needs a new engine and it barely has 3000 miles on it.  Emergency services is about as demanding as it gets, if it cant stand up here well. . .

i bet it did it is just so ironic that it just happened as you were reading this.. you seem to have more trouble with the psd's than the rest of the country.. i bet if that the ambulances you were running was powered with a dmax you wouldnt say a word about any of the trouble they have.. but since it isnt running off what you like you are talkin all this dumb schit tryin to bash on fords. just like e2 posted there are just as many problems with your precious dmax as there is with the new psds and or cummins. they are all new concepts and there are going to be problems. so get over your self and lets get back on track youve drug this B.S. out long enough.  

Dont even get me started on the Duramax seeing that I'm a GM diesel tech I can tell you everything wrong with the duramax. Every motor has there strong and weak points no motor is perfect so shut that stupid mouth of yours about how your "duramax is so much better blah blah blah"  

Wow, its really getting heated here.  I'm not saying every power plant is perfect, far from it.  Im simply stating my experiences with the PSD.  If we had Duramax or Cummins diesels and they were having the same issues I would gladly post it here.  The simple fact is we dont, we have fords.  To be honest your all taking this way to personally.  Its just a motor, I'm not insulting you get over it.

Supposedly we are getting a DMAX in to put through its paces at some point, hopefully soon.  When it does I'll be glad to file a report with you all on its performance. . .  

Oh and by the way if you recall I did say the older fords ewe had are awesome and I really like them.  So Im not bashing fords or people with fords and Im not saying my duramax is the best. . .  

one of the fire deparments here has a brand new chevy ambalance powered by dmax, so far after about a month of having they hate it. one day on the way to a car crash it ended up on the side of the road due it just shutting off, thing died on them and was towed to a local diesel shop and they said the computer was fried it was all burned up like it was on fire. week later while heading to a local parade to show it off thing blew a head gasket. they said there were other problems with it too like when it went in to regen.  

Thats actually really good to know and i appreciate you posting that info.  I can pass that along to our "higher ups."  I really dont care what the power plant is as long as we get to where we need to be when we need to be there.

If anyone has info about cummins too please feel free to let me know.  Im trying to gather info on all of them. Obviosly this probably isnt the best thread for it so just catch me on private messages.  

well i havent heard of cummins in ambalances but like was was said before the reason there are so many ford fleet trucks is due to them having a lower price. the local ambalance service out here has been buying 7.3 strokes to replace the older engines that have racked up the miles and hrs.  

hate to ruin ur day but first of all if u are prowd of 14's i'd tuck my tail and go home. not tryin to make fun or make ya mad but i've seen a Pontiac sunfire run high 12's. if u aint in at least the 12's or 11's u aint got nuthin ,that's just fact. if ur buddy has a d-max that won't keep up with a p-stroke runnin 14's tell him to quite being nice and go ahead and give it half throttle to show u speed . or his truck is sick. but like i said i aint tryin to make ya mad just wanted to wake ya up