pretty much the only known "problem" with the d-max is the injecters. the ydo fail from time to time . but most injecter failures are from lack of knowlege of the person tuning there truck. i know of severell ppl that have had no problem with injecters. and it is very possible to reach 700hp plus with stock injecters, headstuds, and turbo. most ppl are just scared of new technolgy because it is intimidating and can be difficult to understand. i know a few ppl with more money than sense. and they. are the ones that are buy injectors.and also alot of ppl don't understand that u can only go so far with ur engine before ur tranny and drive will have t ohave upgrades as well.  

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E2therock2   u can go ahead and get over ur p-stroke cause after the 7.3 ford has only went down hill. the 6.0 couldn't keep a head on and still can't ,egr cooler,i'll be nice and stop there.now the 6.4 so far has been a total disaster. twin turbo, bullsh**, how bout electronically controlled wastegate, that feeds from low end turbo to high end turbo.twin means they both spoil together. not series. the variable geometric was just fine. and the 6.4 can't hold it's heads either. i know a feller that works for ford and he's got plenty of stories about 6.4 blowin spider gears out the rearend, and no it aint because of too much power.ford is dropping out of the game fast. and the new 6.7 cummins aint the best. don't let bore size fool ya. they just added that extra bore to try to over come the hp loss due to emmissions laws. and for the record so far it aint working. 5.9 still smokes it. and the ho exhaust break from the factory idea aint doin to good. seen more than one lock closed resulting in 25 mph top speed. i'll admit d-maxes do have some injecter issues. and the very first lb7 had plenty of issues with cooling and cracking blocks but what did they do. they kept the same engine and worked to fix there mistakes. it's still the all around leader in modern trucks hands down.that goes for torque, HP, Fuel Economy, speed,reliabilty, emissions, etc.. ford is falling out of the game and everyone knows it  

power doesn't happen under a shade tree anymore, it's on a computer screen, with de-fuelers, line pressures, boost levels, injector timing, pulse width, sequence, metering, egt's,and much more if ya want want to survive in the modern diesel age u can't be scared of computers and electronics cause that's were it's at. and if ya don't know what ur doin, i'll be the first to admit i gotta lot to learn, take it to some one who does it cost more in the beginning but saves n the end when. trust me parts are way more expensive nowa days.  

wow masterson that is one he ll of a conversation you have been carrying on by yourself.. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!  

Hey black powerstroke. . . Why dont you actually contribute to the debate instead of talking trash about and to other people who are trying to make valid points. If you dont like whats being said then dont read it.  So far most people here have actually contributed based on their experiences or expertise, so far all I've heard you do is bash on people.  

he may bash on people but he has contributed more in one week then you have since you started on here  

Thats still no excuse.  Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it without being insulted for it.  Lets be adults here, if you disagree then give a logical reason why not just some trash talk.  

Wow this site has reached its ultimate peak of stupidity.... All this is, is a bash fest "my truck is better than yours" blah blah blah.... Masterson you are a complete idiot all you are doing is spouting off about the Duramax and you dont even know half the problems that are currently happening with them. Every truck that is manufactured today has its own problems like everything else and believe me seeing that I am a diesel mechanic at a GM dealership I work on Duramax every single day and i see every problem that they have. Yea your truck may not have problems and some never do but there are plenty that have their problems and that will keep me busy thru December. I could list all the problems with the new LMM that I have fixed this week its been nothing but trucks that wont go into regen mode and trucks with blown turbos.... hmmm Variable vane is just so great. NOT!!!! I'll admit my 6.7 Cummins isnt perfect in fact right now its not runnin because I dropped three valves in it. But thats the price i pay for modifying a truck that isnt supposed to be modified. High preformance is high mantience. I'm so friggen tried of hearing the god damn Duramax fans spout off about how their truck is so much better. This site is such a little kids site.  

By the By E2TheRock, I was wondering what the usual problems you were seeing with the LBZs were and if there is a way to prevent them from happening?  Obviously I'd like to head it off at the pass. . .  When do you typically encounter said problems in terms of mileage on the truck?  

Well, my father-in-law has had some problems with the turbo, and the check engine light coming on. He put on an aftermarket exhaust. Other that that, it's been OK.  

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Hey black powerstroke. . . Why dont you actually contribute to the debate instead of talking trash about and to other people who are trying to make valid points. If you dont like whats being said then dont read it.  So far most people here have actually contributed based on their experiences or expertise, so far all I've heard you do is bash on people.

i contribute plenty but when people like you and masterson go off blasting one brand of vehicle and praising the other there really is no conversation to be had its an all out IDIOT fest. as it has been stated time after time after time. all trucks have PROBLEMS.. it is just part of it you say the 6.0 is such a pile as is the 6.4 the only money i have put in my truck is aftermarket schit.. it was in the shop 1 time and that was because the fuel tank had a minor leak. i know people with 6.4 that have never had a problem and love the truck. i have friends that drive dodge cummins and chevy dmax. i really dont care. they  as long as  it is one of the big three and not a rice burning foreign pile of SCHIT!!!!. but when brain dead morons get on here and post 7 straight posts to them selves there really is no place to make a discussion. its plain IGNORANT. thats all to say about that. one more thing if you get on here and slam someone elses vehicle of choice plan on gettin it back thats how this game works..  

Im not slamming your vehicle of choice.  The thread itself even says "Which one do you think is better?"  Its the nature of the topic to talk about a given brand.  I never said my Duramax was the best and for whatever reason you all seem to think I did.  I am simply telling my experiences with the PSD.  I spend more time in our ford Ambos then in my personal truck (its unfortunate but truly the nature of my job). I wish it was the opposite cause that would mean Im not working as much. . .  

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I wouldn't say a "all around leader in modern trucks hands down". If this were true why is there soooo may more Fords out there on the job sites. Around here it's easily 10 to 1.
HP and torque? Sure it says that on the sticker, but the dyno says different. And $ for $ the Cummins is the leader in after market HP/torque.
Reliability. I don't know of any that have any luck after 200,000.
Emissions. Didn't Cummins receive an emission award for the 6.7? I don't recall reading about GM getting one.
Economy. Yes I'll give you that one. Those D-max's get good mpg..I'd say probably the best in the group.
Speed...Sorry I don't get that one. Do you mean 1/4 mile or highway?
As it has been said many times on this site the GM makes a great truck...great ride,motor trans combo etc...but the weak front end and speed bump clearing ground clearance make it pretty much useless for alot of us...including myself. I haven't owned a GM since they went IFS. I do agree that Fords later diesels have really hurt them. The 6.4s do seem to be better than the 6.0 but I'm still hearing about problems. I think things will get better once Ford and Navistar go their separate ways. In my opinion Ford makes the best truck and Cummins makes the best motor...throw a 5.9 in F-350 king ranch and you have MY dream truck!  

I'm with you BCRAM!  A cummins in a ford would be awesome!  I also definitley agree that the majority of the problems rest with navistar and not ford, per se. I cant wait to see what they have in store if they start makin their own diesels.