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03 5.9
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/10/08
06:55 PM

I have a 2003 Dodge QC, 5" straight exhuast, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Bully Dog Triple Dog, and was looking at putting stage III edge jammer nozzles on my injectors anybody have any other suggestions or necessary upgrades if I put the nozzles on?  


2003 Dodge Quad Cab, Auto, K&N Intake, 5" straight exhuast, Bully Dog Triple Dog, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Stage 3 Edge Jammer Nozzles, Boost Elbow, Quadzilla Boost Fooler

 
needpower
Addict | Posts: 2001 | Joined: 11/07
Posted: 09/10/08
08:19 PM

you running an aftermarket intake? more air in more air out then fuel is the "correct way" at doing it  


1997 f-250 7.3 powerstroke. just another old truck making big power hahaha
my lug nuts need more torque then what your honda makes

 
brad101985
User | Posts: 85 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/11/08
12:29 AM

ok don't go with the edge jammer nozzles. they suck call ddp and get some form there. run the 90 horse nozzles. I would also look into a fass pump if u don't have one. Then like the also an intake. U can also do and air arch. Then if u want more power u can upgrade the turbo. I am running the bd super b and love it. i will sell if u r looking for a great deal on a turbo that only has about 1,000 miles on it. I pull the truck and i need a bigger one and i can't run twins on it so i have to go bigger. This turbo screams on the bottom end.  


03 Ram 2500, edge juice with attitude and hot unlock code, Smarty, 90 ddp injectors, fass 150, BD air arch, BD super B turbo, ATS manifold, Custom exhaust, K&N intake.

 
03 5.9
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/11/08
05:53 PM

I have a K&N intake right now  


2003 Dodge Quad Cab, Auto, K&N Intake, 5" straight exhuast, Bully Dog Triple Dog, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Stage 3 Edge Jammer Nozzles, Boost Elbow, Quadzilla Boost Fooler

 
03 5.9
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/11/08
05:56 PM

Yeah im interested how much you want for it? If I put the 90 horse ddps on should i fire ring the head and put in stronger head studs for the turbo?  


2003 Dodge Quad Cab, Auto, K&N Intake, 5" straight exhuast, Bully Dog Triple Dog, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Stage 3 Edge Jammer Nozzles, Boost Elbow, Quadzilla Boost Fooler

 
brad101985
User | Posts: 85 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/12/08
06:17 AM

When u run the injectors u don't need to. a good rule of thumb is that if u r pumping in more tha 50 pounds of boost then u whould stud it and that. With the super b turbo u can run up to 60. i have mine set at 45 and i hit 42 when i am pulling it.  


03 Ram 2500, edge juice with attitude and hot unlock code, Smarty, 90 ddp injectors, fass 150, BD air arch, BD super B turbo, ATS manifold, Custom exhaust, K&N intake.

 
bluetech151
Guru | Posts: 936 | Joined: 06/07
Posted: 09/12/08
03:46 PM

Trany upgrade. Even so it might not give you power it is a wise investment. Also look into getting a fass lift pump as Brad noted.  


Let the good coal roll

 
03 5.9
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/12/08
05:05 PM

What would be good tranny upgrades that aren't too expensive? torque converter and valve body?  


2003 Dodge Quad Cab, Auto, K&N Intake, 5" straight exhuast, Bully Dog Triple Dog, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Stage 3 Edge Jammer Nozzles, Boost Elbow, Quadzilla Boost Fooler

 
bluetech151
Guru | Posts: 936 | Joined: 06/07
Posted: 09/12/08
08:09 PM

How far do you want to push your truck?

And a good TC and VB should do the job well  


Let the good coal roll

 
jms_shepherd
User | Posts: 212 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 09/12/08
10:43 PM

I would use Formula 1 diesel injectors.  there pretty cheap, 1200 for all six. They will actually run cooler than DDP and they give more power than anything on the market, 275hp I believe is the highest.  Also you get better economy depending on what you're looking for anyways.  But before you do injectors, you need to look into lift pump and then a CP3, if you run low pressure that can be VERY VERY bad and you lose a TON of power, things can over heat and all kinds of crap can go wrong.  EGT's will be sky high.  I would put an air intake with a plennum, slap some water methanol on their and you should be good for now.  You don't have to do the intercooler yet because their pretty darn efficient for being stock.

A TC and VB will be able to handle around 500 or so but if you wanna go more than that, you will need to look at internal clutch packs and input shafts.  If you push over 550hp, you're shafts will be toast, at least if you're doing boost launches, they won't be able to hold up to the much power.  Also a deep tranny pan is a MUST, that will keep her pretty cool as far as the transmission is concerned andif you wanted to go cooler, a tranny cooler is always an option.  

I would buy that turbo once you got those other parts but even then, if you do that you need to go get head studs because over 40lbs of boost can lift the head off the block and thus you will need to have the head gasket replaced.  But if you want PM me and we can talk.  


5.9 2007 Cummins. Wastegated 5000 with PDI manifold, Snow Water meth, Pro Sportsman Valve Spring, Banks Intercooler with tubing, Banks Elbow, Smarty TNT-R, F1 150hp Flux injectors, Floor It Diesels Stage III Modified CP3 AirDog 150/150, 5 inch exhaust, S&B intake, Goerend Input Output Shafts and clutches, BD Flex plate, Converter and Valve Body.  4 1/2 inch Fabtec Lift with 33" tires dressed with DC1 Dick Cepek 20" rims
674.05HP

 
brad101985
User | Posts: 85 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/23/08
07:10 AM

I have seen the head gaskets handle more than 40 lbs of boost. I have seen them handle up to 85. u just have to make sure that ur bolts r torqued right. U can put up to 50 before i would actually start to worry about it. I don't think that 03 5.9 is going to have to worry about hitting that every single day all day long. I wouldn't worry about head studs. Its worth the money if u r pushing the boost. I also don't agree with the cp3 just yet. U might as well run ur stock one untill u feel a lose in power or u see on a rail pressure gauge that its not keeping up. no point in buying something that u don't need yet. I have 186,000 on my stock one with my set up and i don't have any problems yet.  


03 Ram 2500, edge juice with attitude and hot unlock code, Smarty, 90 ddp injectors, fass 150, BD air arch, BD super B turbo, ATS manifold, Custom exhaust, K&N intake.

 
jms_shepherd
User | Posts: 212 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 09/28/08
06:22 AM

I really don't agree with anything you said simply because I have seen gaskets blow (I have 3 friends that were pulling 40+ pounds and they lifted the head off).  Also the CP3, you better upgrade that because there is a potential of melting your motor because you're rail pressure will drop considerably.  There is no way that stock CP3 would handle all the demand in fuel, if it handle a stack chip setup and injectors without upgrades, then whats the point of them then.  They wouldn't make them.  I like power and the CP3 itself added a ton, so I wanted to safe guard not to mention my truck isn't even a year old and when I started doing upgrades it was a chain reaction.  The fact of the matter is that you will run cooler, gain power throughout RPM's and WOT simply because you won't be loosing rail pressure.  Granted you will have a lift pump providing fuel to the cp3 but fuel pumps don't work off of pressure, they work on volume.  I guarantee that if you would buy a modified CP3 or duals, you would see the difference.  You may never break a part down instantaneously but I can tell you this, you will destroy it ALOT sooner than it's life expectancy.  It's just common sense and good wisdom.  Why would you want to push something to it's limit and potentially risk the chance of melting your motor  


5.9 2007 Cummins. Wastegated 5000 with PDI manifold, Snow Water meth, Pro Sportsman Valve Spring, Banks Intercooler with tubing, Banks Elbow, Smarty TNT-R, F1 150hp Flux injectors, Floor It Diesels Stage III Modified CP3 AirDog 150/150, 5 inch exhaust, S&B intake, Goerend Input Output Shafts and clutches, BD Flex plate, Converter and Valve Body.  4 1/2 inch Fabtec Lift with 33" tires dressed with DC1 Dick Cepek 20" rims
674.05HP

 
brad101985
User | Posts: 85 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/29/08
09:15 AM

I have been running my truck with the stock cp3 for over 2 years with the edge and injectors and i have over 186,000 miles on it. The motor is clean and great inside. My mechanice who is not from a dealership of some stupid a$$ guy that just wants my money. he is really good friend. I have also shoved 48 lbs of boost into that motor with that many miles and not a singel problem with the head gasket. I guess ur friends got trucks that were built on a friday were as mine was built on a wednessday. It all depends on the truck. I do agree that a pump will help. If u watch rail pressure and make sure that u r not starvin anything when u have ur foot into it. He probly not going to be laying it to the wood at every stop sign and dragracing every single second he is in the truck. The stock cp3 r pretty stout. As u can see i have 186,000 on mine and it still suplies the enough fuel for my truck. So i hate pep saying that my truck should be dead. well its not. I can't tell u why it is still running but all i know is never underestimate the stock parts. also what years r ur buddys trucks. i know that the 03-04.5 r a little different that urs. So maybe it is that they r a better motor than that 600 series u r running. I guess so.  


03 Ram 2500, edge juice with attitude and hot unlock code, Smarty, 90 ddp injectors, fass 150, BD air arch, BD super B turbo, ATS manifold, Custom exhaust, K&N intake.

 
jms_shepherd
User | Posts: 212 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 09/29/08
03:32 PM

The guys I talk to are John Isaac from Floor it diesel who is the father of the modified CP3 and Richard Brown.  They have guided me in every dayum step with my truck and I am pretty dayum sure they know what they are talking about.  They are 03 and 4.5 by the way.  The ran stacked chips with no lift pumps or CP3 and they all went out on them.  And they even melted the motor. But anyways who cares because I really don't.  You can do your thing and I will do mine.  I just know what actually is happening.  And 186000 miles isn't alot for a diesel by the way.  Just thought you might want to know that.  


5.9 2007 Cummins. Wastegated 5000 with PDI manifold, Snow Water meth, Pro Sportsman Valve Spring, Banks Intercooler with tubing, Banks Elbow, Smarty TNT-R, F1 150hp Flux injectors, Floor It Diesels Stage III Modified CP3 AirDog 150/150, 5 inch exhaust, S&B intake, Goerend Input Output Shafts and clutches, BD Flex plate, Converter and Valve Body.  4 1/2 inch Fabtec Lift with 33" tires dressed with DC1 Dick Cepek 20" rims
674.05HP

 
03 5.9
New User | Posts: 15 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
06:11 PM

I'm still debating on which nozzles to go with but either way i think i'm gonna get a modified CP3 so i don't risk it. What's a good gph flow for a lift pump with 120 horse nozzles?  


2003 Dodge Quad Cab, Auto, K&N Intake, 5" straight exhuast, Bully Dog Triple Dog, 315/70R17 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ's, Stage 3 Edge Jammer Nozzles, Boost Elbow, Quadzilla Boost Fooler

 
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