2010 Half Ton Diesel Pickups

From what I have been reading about the new half ton diesels due out next year, all of the Big 3 will be using Urea injection systems of one kind or another in order to meet the new emissions requirements.  My question is, will all these new trucks have dual tanks for diesel & for urea injection (DPF Fluid, if you will)?
Also, how often will we need DPF (urea) fluid?  Will we have to pay to fill up TWICE every time we need fuel?  Looks to me like Joe Q Public is gonna get fleeced again at the pump if these jokers get their way.  

From what the manufactures have said. You will get it filled when you get your oil changed.  
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Yep, all of them (when they come out) will have a urea-injection SCR. Like sandslinger said, it looks like the top-off interval will be approximately every oil change, maybe every other oil change. So far, the only "sure-thing" half-ton diesel is GM. Ford and Dodge have their programs on hold for now, but supposedly have them very close to market-ready.  

Not only will you have to pay at the pump you will also have to pay at the grocery store.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/i-uto111008.php
Urea is a fertilizer for food. If demand for urea increases your food will be more expensive. Expect more food riots in 3rd world countries. Here is what both sides say:
Keith Stokes, proprietor of Stokes Engineering and IFDC consultant on urea production, says, "Urea for NOx reduction will create a new demand that could drive up fertilizer prices—just as ethanol production did."

But Doran of SCR Stakeholders says, "Demand for this automotive-grade urea is not expected to exceed 5% of the world's production. The new use of urea to control vehicle emissions could lead to increased investment and expand world capacity for urea production."

Why not just put an HHO system on trucks. Water is cheaper than urea and it can be used again. Hopefully I will have some hard data from the EPA and CARB and Universities to prove it.  

But would a hydrogen electrolysis system produce the same catalytic reaction as urea? I think the objective with a urea SCR system is to neutralize NOX into nitrogen and water.  

I think it will be as common as refilling your washer fluid it's just another product that will be in demand. All of the autoparts stores will carry it when the technology becomes popular. I also think for the first few months you may only be able to get it at the dealerships. Just my two cents. It won't take much Urea to do what they want to do with it.  
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Yeah, from what I've heard it'll be pretty widely available. It seems like the Germans are more AR about the re-filling process (i.e. Audi, VW, BMW, M-B). I think they want you to take it to the dealership for a top-off. Knowing them, they'll have some weirdo filling mechanism that requires you to have a special tool or bottle to top it off.

Eventually, I see it being as common as washer fluid, and probably about as cheap (about a buck a gallon), and something you could easily do yourself.  

So... buy an older truck or... rip it off like hillbillies.Screw those EPA idiots and those liberals!  
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Hey has anyone heard when GM plans to release their half ton Dmax? I'd like to try one out but I haven't heard when they will be available. Thanks.  
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Hi there,
I was wondering if any of you guys are interested in a diesel half-ton here in North America? If so, please check out and sign my petition, I just started it today, but we've got to start some where. Thanks,

http://www.petitiononline.com/DIESELNA/petition.html

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I like where your head is at Robert. I'll post your message in a blog. I made it 49.  

I've recently read more news about the emissions requirements for half ton diesels .....

It's not good.

http://www.tomorrowstechnician.com/Article/65667/white_house_unveils_interagency_program_to_improve_fuel_economy_and_emissions.aspx

The standards proposed would apply to passenger cars, light-duty trucks and medium-duty passenger vehicles, covering model years 2012-2016. They require these vehicles to meet an estimated combined average emissions level of 250 grams of carbon dioxide (CO2) per mile in model year 2016, equivalent to 35.5 miles per gallon (mpg) if the automotive industry were to meet this CO2 level through fuel economy improvements.


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