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What to buy in 3/4 Ton 4X4 diesel?

 
Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 09/28/09
09:58 AM

Hey guys,

I'm brand new to the Forums. I've always owned gas powered trucks, but the truck I want to buy next is going to be a 4X4 diesel.

Out of the big three; is it true that the transmissions don't hold-up good?
I'm most likely going to be looking for a used truck in between 96 and 06, because I can't touch the price of the new ones.

I wanted to get your input and advice on what to stay away from and look for. Is it true that the transmissions don't hold-up, when mated to the diesels?
I heard that the diesels, when compared to gas V8's in the same identical truck, get alot better fuel economy?

I know that you can't kill the diesels, they just keep on running 2 or 3 times as long as the gas engines.

Thanks for any input guys,

Have a great one,  
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MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2039 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 09/29/09
02:39 AM

The Allison tranny is great, and Dodge's 68RFE is really doing well with the new 6.7 Cummins.  If you get a late model Dodge with the 5.9 Cummins the 48RE tranny won't handle much in power upgrades but there are some small fixes that can be done rather cheap which will improve its life.  Ford doesn't have many transmission issues either until you turn up the power.

They all hold up well with stock power settings, just keep in mind you'll wear out the auto tranny and TC faster when you jack up the power.

You do know there are some killer deals on new trucks, right?  I picked up a new '08 with a trade in last year for less than what I bought my '06 used.  Its all on how you work the system.



Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
Titan Fuel Tank
Aero Muffler 4040XL
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linmup linmup
Enthusiast | Posts: 288 | Joined: 01/09
Posted: 09/29/09
02:42 PM

I was in the same situation when i bought my first diesel. In 2004 i bought a 97 crewcab f250 short bed 4x4 with 119,000 miles for $13,000. it fit my budget at the time, and as my finances got a little better, i upgraded the things that i felt would help the truck keep up with the newer vehicles. 240,000 miles and still goin strong. In my opinion, buying a used diesel is the way to go. I bought a really nice 2000 f250 crewcab 4x4 a year and a half ago, and the guy who sold it to me bought a 2008 lariat f250 crewcab 4x4, and he told me he wishes he would have kept the 2000. JD  

Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 09/30/09
01:48 PM

Thanks for the input!  
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Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 10/20/09
10:01 AM

Thanks for the reply,
Down here in Florida, I haven't seen any of the dealers budging too much on the new 3/4 ton diesels.
Any secrets would be helpful,

Thanks for the input,  
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MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2039 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/20/09
11:22 AM

Depends on your budget.  What are you looking at to spend?


Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
Titan Fuel Tank
Aero Muffler 4040XL
Nathan AirChime K3LA

Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 10/26/09
09:02 AM

Thanks for the reply Kris,
As of now I have around 6K cash, but I might even be willin' to finance a little of the cost for a good rig.
As far as fuel economy is concerned; What do y'all think between the Duramax, Cummins and Powerstroke, with the same weighted truck and around the same gearing in the pumpkin, which of the three gets the better fuel economy "stock"?

Thanks for any input! Smirk  
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MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2039 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/26/09
10:24 AM

In stock form, Dodge has the lead with fuel economy.  In modified form, Dodge will still hold that lead.

If you have something to trade in, do it.  If all you've got is the cash on hand, get a Dodge that's pre-'98 so you can avoid the "53" series block and the VP-44 injector pump.  You can also look at the year model 2000 and up, but that might be out of your price range.



Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
Titan Fuel Tank
Aero Muffler 4040XL
Nathan AirChime K3LA

Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 10/27/09
04:48 AM

Thanks Kris Grin  
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71diesel 71diesel
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 10/27/09
07:07 AM

I think that you might want to look at an older chevy personally.  After Chevy came out with the 6.5(i know, nobody likes them) they were mechanical for a while.  My grandparents have one in a one ton flatbed with over 300,000 miles on it, and they still haul butt loads of stuff on the back with a really heavy trailor on it.  Its not a power house, but it gets the job done. And they have never had a problem with the 30 spline 700R4 in it.  And they still manage to get almost 20 mpg, out of a one ton. And beings that nooone likes a 6.5, you could probably get one for cheep.  

Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 10/28/09
06:19 AM

Thanks 71 for the reply,

I've been avoiding the GM's, because of the IFS. I like GM's Drivetrain and Runnin' Gear, I think they run great! I wish they would've stayed with a solid axle in the front, on the 4X4's.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned; but it seems trucks are getting soft and feminine these days! I will say the Power, Torque and fuel economy is better these days though.
If someone is worried about ride comfort and all the creature comforts, get one of those crossovers or something. Just keep a TRUCK a TRUCK!
I've been to a bunch of dealerships during the CARS program days. Out of all of them, I couldn't find a 4X4  without being fully loaded! The salesmen of the different dealerships were looking at me, like I was nuts!
If I want something fully loaded, I'll buy a Lincoln or a Caddy!
What happened to the good ole days?
KEEP A TRUCK A TRUCK! Let's not turn them into Yuppie mobiles! Or at least have one or two basic REAL 4X4's on the lots.

The only comfort I need here in Florida is Air Conditioning, that's about it!  
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71diesel 71diesel
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 10/29/09
06:27 AM

Not a problem. I agree with you on the IFS. To get a solid axel in a chevy you have to go back to the 80's.  But then again, if you want a non loaded truck, that is about as far back you have to go to get the crank windows and just A/C. Grin  

MarineOne MarineOne
Addict | Posts: 2039 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/29/09
02:07 PM

Hey now, I love cranking them windows.  And yeah, I also agree that GM really lost it with the IFS but they also will continue to lose out on customers with the auto only choice for the tranny.

The Allison is a great auto tranny, but there are guys like me that wanted a manual.  I could get by without a solid axle or maybe even a manual, but not both.  Now if only someone from GM actually read stuff like this, or perhaps saw they have a problem with injectors, they would have a better product.  Unfortunately they've had their heads collectively stuck in the sand for so long I'm not sure a snorkel would help them at this point.


Kris  

2006 Dodge Ram 2500 QC 5.9L - Smarty CR S-06 on SW #5

2008 Dodge Ram 3500 QC 6.7L - H&S MiniMaxx on DPF tune for towing
Titan Fuel Tank
Aero Muffler 4040XL
Nathan AirChime K3LA

01 24 valve 01 24 valve
Enthusiast | Posts: 317 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 11/12/09
07:33 PM

if you want a real power house go with either 2 trucks the 96 to 98 cummins 5.9L 12 valve standard transmission or the dodge 2003 2004 5.9L 24 valve common rail standard transmission they wont let you down.  
2001 dodge ram 2500 ext cab short box 5 speed 4 inch down pipe into 5 inch strait pipe exhaust into 6 inch chrome dual aussie stacks, 90hp injectors with 200hp tips, quadzilla adrenaline tuner with monitor , ,  bd lift pump, AFE stage 2 cold air intake, ARP head studs, ATS three piece exhaust manifold with t4 flange,Garrett ta45 turbo southbend dual disc 750hp clutch with 1 3/8" input shaft

Scratcha Scratcha
New User | Posts: 14 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 11/13/09
07:31 AM

Thanks for the input everybody!  
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